Yes, Brevette that was very concerning because Kucinich is a Fighter for Truth. It seems to me it is the same old BS Predator Class Election Scam. An Idiot Sell-out Democrat in for 4 or 8 years and the people get disgusted and vote Republican and then a moronic Sell-out Republican for 4 or 8 years and the people push back and vote Democrat. With trump and biden two bumbling clown geriatrics Sell-Outs and outright Criminals RFK JR. slots right in and with his family name, Courage to take on Monsanto, Covid, US Agencies like the EPA for decades, his straight talk he seems like the ideal candidate and he can win. I was behind him for many years. But he has Exposed himself as a Warmonger who supports Genocide, Ethnic Cleansing, Crimes Against Humanity and Mass Child Sacrifice for his Zionist Masters.
There are only a few possibilities for this:
1. He is ignorant. Ignorant is ok because you still learn and be enlightened. HE IS NOT IGNORANT ON THIS SUBJECT.
2. He is a moron (can't learn either because do not have the capacity or are too programmed). OBVIOUSLY HE IS NOT.
3. He is Bought and Paid for by the Zionist Psycho's. LIKELY.
4. He is Mossad (Think Epstein) and/or CIA Blackmailed. POTENTIALLY.
5. He is scared. CONCERN IS EXPECTED BUT TOO SCARED TO SPEAK THE TRUTH? THEN GO BACK TO BEING A LAWYER.
We already have 2 idiots who are a combination of all 5.
What this demonstrates is there is No Solution in politics!
Yeah albert venezio, the over the top support of Israel is really concerning.
I bought the Kennedy bumper stickers, but then didn't put them on after he went full zionist with that rabbi.
I do wonder though if there is something I am not understanding. I have listened and read quite a bit of RFK jr and he seems to have a lot of integrity and never bullshits. However when he went full zionist on the podcast with the rabbi he said a number of things that from what I have read or heard him say in the past, he had to know were false.
Also; I have heard a couple of other people point out similar things, like Whitney Webb and Max Blumenthal who said multiple times when he critiqued RFK's statements that RFK had to know what he was saying was bs and that some of it was just obvious whole cloth fabrication.
Maybe the Israel lobby is just too powerful. Hopefully RFK clarifies or figures something out because his ridiculous zionism really put a damper on my and a lot of peoples enthusiasm for him, and makes him look like a real fool with whats going down in Gaza now.
So on the topic of Israel, rfk, jr is to the right of Biden now. Even status quo Biden sees he has to stop looking so accommodating to israel because he is losing support. The younger folks and the black voters, as well as others are not with him on this issue. I think the hispanics, too, are leaving him. rfk, jr is so extreme on his views it's just insane. there are israeli scholars and jews in general that don't even hold such an idealistic view of israel. many are highly critical of them with the current situation and with the historical record regarding israel. rfk, jr really is tone deaf on this one and is over the top in praising the behavior of Israeli not just now but historically and clearly many nations, western democracies, are criticizing israel. how does rfk jr square this now when there is so much in the press about the larger world condemning israel's behavior in gaza and even genecide joe is softening his tone as well.
I do wonder about Dennis Kucinich and how/why the change came about.
Question is, considering the horrendous alternatives shaping up for our next selection, is a Kennedy candidacy a reasonable "Hail Mary" play? Because I can't determine which of those others are the lesser of two weevils.
Kucinich seemed to have been all about morality & integrity, even at the expense of electability. Perhaps this was why he parted ways with RFK Jr.? Because RFK Jr. may be holding his nose and doing what he thinks he really must to get where he needs to be- Or maybe he's been seduced into doing what he can lie to himself about as being "reasonable", before the post election reality of getting forced into business as usual by those who actually rule us is explained to him- As it was explained to Obama and Trump.
By the time we know, it will be too late to change anything
you are probably right but then doesn't that make rfk, jr pretty much like the others in that they will say anything to get elected and once they do they don't come through. Yes Obama and Trump had to tow the line but if that is what rfk, jr is doing then he isn't an anti-establishment, pro peace candidate. i feel that rfk, jr has flip flopped, and is no longer the same candidate i was following with enthusiasm. time will tell but i won't feel great voting for a candidate that i felt was once the real deal, someone honest and genuine. I don't feel he is that candidate anymore. I can't vote for someone who can watch genocide taking place, while praising the very people who are doing it. truthfully i feel like he is a fraud now. i appreciate your sharing your thoughts on this and i will agree it will be too late. i might be forced to sit this election out, something i have never done but definitely not voting for trump or biden
the problem with Israel and their money in elections is a real problem. If you stand up against them is it possible to win, when you know they will be attacking you at every turn. I'm thinking I should have some faith in RFK, jr. and that he will stand up and do the right thing if elected President.
and if he doesn't? he seems too vested in his stance and is defending Israel ferociously. I find it hard to believe he would do otherwise. that's why Kucinich and the others left his campaign.
Politics is an ugly business. It is hard to wrestle with pigs in a swamp and stay clean-
Plus, there is some evolutionary psychology involved. When people are trying to get elected or otherwise take over a leadership position as a "reform" candidate, they are MUCH more effective at convincing others to follow them if THEY can convince THEMSELVES that they are somehow going to be different, they are better than the old leaders, after getting into office THEY won't have to do pretty much all the unpleasant things those old leaders were doing (and which they had promised not to)- But they almost always HAVE TO. Seen any swamps drained yet? Seen anyone who ran as a peace candidate making peace yet?
Unless a candidate is a self aware, intelligent and stone cold sociopath deliberately telling self serving lies to get power while not caring about anything but achieving that position? The first person they lie to has to be their own self. And they DO. "Quid pro quo".
Since leaders were "big men" and usually got to have access to lots of women, guess what turned out to be an evolutionaly favored trait?
Siobhan, do not disengage. The fate of those too morally disgusted by politics to engage is to be ruled by those less moral than themselves. Just try to understand people and work the problems. Any incremental improvement is STILL an improvement. The difference between "bad" and "worse" is MUCH more noticable than the difference between good and better!
And after an election, if your "reform" candidate WINS? Your work has barely begun, you must watch them like a hawk and HOLD THEM TO THEIR PROMISES. Americans who usually tune out politics between elections years since "they won" have made a serious error.
i hear you and agree. also i don't have to guess, the answer is as old as time. i have a very hard time listening to rfk, jr now since he has kissed the ring israel/aipac etc. i'm disappointed how he could be so silent about Gaza and barely distinguishes between hamas and the Palestinian people. i have't totally disengaged but i'm very suspect of rfk, jr now. it's still early on so i've got time to see how things unfold. the thing is, like most americans, it's getting tiring selecting a candidate based on bad and worse. before bobby flipped and became genocide bob i was actually very excited about his candidacy. bobby is clearly lying to himself because his stance is so out of character based on all the interviews and talks i listened to before Oct 7th.
We don't yet know who our approved "choices" will be in November '24.
Sometime around first week of June '24, the probability fields will be collapsed. Perhaps by electoral votes, perhaps by MSM full on propaganda blitz, perhaps by yet another three letter agency approved/facilitated assassination.
The ball is in play and nobody with less than a few billion $s has any real idea how the game plans run.
very true we don't yet know yet who the choices will be. it's way too early. even rumors that Biden will be switched out at the convention. This election could have some real surprises
Leadership means speaking out on even the difficult things even when it can be politically damaging to yourself. Actually on the Gaza genocide it is shows moral courage that is what people are looking for and will vote for.
I may have to bail on Kiriakou, who I have been such a huge fan of for years. Israel is performing wholesale murder of civilians in Palestine. This is a Genocide. There is no possibility of Israel becoming a peaceful neighbor with a state of Palestine. And RFK Jr is a Zionist liar who has zero credibility on Israel/Palestine, because he does not recognize the right of Palestinians or the state of Palestine to exist. Also, regarding Kuwait/Iraq, the Bush administration essentially gave Iraq permission to act against Kuwait, and explicitly said we have no position regarding Arab-Arab conflicts. We wanted them to start another war in the region, it was our policy. Just as we aided both sides in the Iran-Iraq war previously. I am so disgusted when these truths are omitted to make the U.S. look fair or reasonable in any way.
Yes, Brevette that was very concerning because Kucinich is a Fighter for Truth. It seems to me it is the same old BS Predator Class Election Scam. An Idiot Sell-out Democrat in for 4 or 8 years and the people get disgusted and vote Republican and then a moronic Sell-out Republican for 4 or 8 years and the people push back and vote Democrat. With trump and biden two bumbling clown geriatrics Sell-Outs and outright Criminals RFK JR. slots right in and with his family name, Courage to take on Monsanto, Covid, US Agencies like the EPA for decades, his straight talk he seems like the ideal candidate and he can win. I was behind him for many years. But he has Exposed himself as a Warmonger who supports Genocide, Ethnic Cleansing, Crimes Against Humanity and Mass Child Sacrifice for his Zionist Masters.
There are only a few possibilities for this:
1. He is ignorant. Ignorant is ok because you still learn and be enlightened. HE IS NOT IGNORANT ON THIS SUBJECT.
2. He is a moron (can't learn either because do not have the capacity or are too programmed). OBVIOUSLY HE IS NOT.
3. He is Bought and Paid for by the Zionist Psycho's. LIKELY.
4. He is Mossad (Think Epstein) and/or CIA Blackmailed. POTENTIALLY.
5. He is scared. CONCERN IS EXPECTED BUT TOO SCARED TO SPEAK THE TRUTH? THEN GO BACK TO BEING A LAWYER.
We already have 2 idiots who are a combination of all 5.
What this demonstrates is there is No Solution in politics!
Yeah albert venezio, the over the top support of Israel is really concerning.
I bought the Kennedy bumper stickers, but then didn't put them on after he went full zionist with that rabbi.
I do wonder though if there is something I am not understanding. I have listened and read quite a bit of RFK jr and he seems to have a lot of integrity and never bullshits. However when he went full zionist on the podcast with the rabbi he said a number of things that from what I have read or heard him say in the past, he had to know were false.
Also; I have heard a couple of other people point out similar things, like Whitney Webb and Max Blumenthal who said multiple times when he critiqued RFK's statements that RFK had to know what he was saying was bs and that some of it was just obvious whole cloth fabrication.
Maybe the Israel lobby is just too powerful. Hopefully RFK clarifies or figures something out because his ridiculous zionism really put a damper on my and a lot of peoples enthusiasm for him, and makes him look like a real fool with whats going down in Gaza now.
So on the topic of Israel, rfk, jr is to the right of Biden now. Even status quo Biden sees he has to stop looking so accommodating to israel because he is losing support. The younger folks and the black voters, as well as others are not with him on this issue. I think the hispanics, too, are leaving him. rfk, jr is so extreme on his views it's just insane. there are israeli scholars and jews in general that don't even hold such an idealistic view of israel. many are highly critical of them with the current situation and with the historical record regarding israel. rfk, jr really is tone deaf on this one and is over the top in praising the behavior of Israeli not just now but historically and clearly many nations, western democracies, are criticizing israel. how does rfk jr square this now when there is so much in the press about the larger world condemning israel's behavior in gaza and even genecide joe is softening his tone as well.
But why is Kennedy's Campaign Manager CIA (Officially Ex-CIA, though there is no such thing)?
How far he has fallen the last few months.
She’s his daughter-in-law. She doesn’t work there anymore.
I do wonder about Dennis Kucinich and how/why the change came about.
Question is, considering the horrendous alternatives shaping up for our next selection, is a Kennedy candidacy a reasonable "Hail Mary" play? Because I can't determine which of those others are the lesser of two weevils.
just take a look at Kucinich substack. he is diametrically opposed to rfk, jr on the issue of israel.
@Siobha
Kucinich seemed to have been all about morality & integrity, even at the expense of electability. Perhaps this was why he parted ways with RFK Jr.? Because RFK Jr. may be holding his nose and doing what he thinks he really must to get where he needs to be- Or maybe he's been seduced into doing what he can lie to himself about as being "reasonable", before the post election reality of getting forced into business as usual by those who actually rule us is explained to him- As it was explained to Obama and Trump.
By the time we know, it will be too late to change anything
you are probably right but then doesn't that make rfk, jr pretty much like the others in that they will say anything to get elected and once they do they don't come through. Yes Obama and Trump had to tow the line but if that is what rfk, jr is doing then he isn't an anti-establishment, pro peace candidate. i feel that rfk, jr has flip flopped, and is no longer the same candidate i was following with enthusiasm. time will tell but i won't feel great voting for a candidate that i felt was once the real deal, someone honest and genuine. I don't feel he is that candidate anymore. I can't vote for someone who can watch genocide taking place, while praising the very people who are doing it. truthfully i feel like he is a fraud now. i appreciate your sharing your thoughts on this and i will agree it will be too late. i might be forced to sit this election out, something i have never done but definitely not voting for trump or biden
the problem with Israel and their money in elections is a real problem. If you stand up against them is it possible to win, when you know they will be attacking you at every turn. I'm thinking I should have some faith in RFK, jr. and that he will stand up and do the right thing if elected President.
and if he doesn't? he seems too vested in his stance and is defending Israel ferociously. I find it hard to believe he would do otherwise. that's why Kucinich and the others left his campaign.
@Siobahn
Politics is an ugly business. It is hard to wrestle with pigs in a swamp and stay clean-
Plus, there is some evolutionary psychology involved. When people are trying to get elected or otherwise take over a leadership position as a "reform" candidate, they are MUCH more effective at convincing others to follow them if THEY can convince THEMSELVES that they are somehow going to be different, they are better than the old leaders, after getting into office THEY won't have to do pretty much all the unpleasant things those old leaders were doing (and which they had promised not to)- But they almost always HAVE TO. Seen any swamps drained yet? Seen anyone who ran as a peace candidate making peace yet?
Unless a candidate is a self aware, intelligent and stone cold sociopath deliberately telling self serving lies to get power while not caring about anything but achieving that position? The first person they lie to has to be their own self. And they DO. "Quid pro quo".
Since leaders were "big men" and usually got to have access to lots of women, guess what turned out to be an evolutionaly favored trait?
Siobhan, do not disengage. The fate of those too morally disgusted by politics to engage is to be ruled by those less moral than themselves. Just try to understand people and work the problems. Any incremental improvement is STILL an improvement. The difference between "bad" and "worse" is MUCH more noticable than the difference between good and better!
And after an election, if your "reform" candidate WINS? Your work has barely begun, you must watch them like a hawk and HOLD THEM TO THEIR PROMISES. Americans who usually tune out politics between elections years since "they won" have made a serious error.
i hear you and agree. also i don't have to guess, the answer is as old as time. i have a very hard time listening to rfk, jr now since he has kissed the ring israel/aipac etc. i'm disappointed how he could be so silent about Gaza and barely distinguishes between hamas and the Palestinian people. i have't totally disengaged but i'm very suspect of rfk, jr now. it's still early on so i've got time to see how things unfold. the thing is, like most americans, it's getting tiring selecting a candidate based on bad and worse. before bobby flipped and became genocide bob i was actually very excited about his candidacy. bobby is clearly lying to himself because his stance is so out of character based on all the interviews and talks i listened to before Oct 7th.
Correct! Our choices are Biden Trump or Bobby! We MUST choose wisely for America!
@Shanna L
We don't yet know who our approved "choices" will be in November '24.
Sometime around first week of June '24, the probability fields will be collapsed. Perhaps by electoral votes, perhaps by MSM full on propaganda blitz, perhaps by yet another three letter agency approved/facilitated assassination.
The ball is in play and nobody with less than a few billion $s has any real idea how the game plans run.
very true we don't yet know yet who the choices will be. it's way too early. even rumors that Biden will be switched out at the convention. This election could have some real surprises
Well put Siobhan. I often find that non-Zionist Jews are the best Fighters against Zionism which is really an Extremely Racist philosophy.
BL, I know she is his daughter-in-law. You never quit the CIA it is way worse then the Mafia in that respect. The CIA is Controlled by Orion.
Is there a way in which I can watch the Podcast?
Terry Oldberg
Engineer/Scientist/Public Policy Researher
@Terry Oldberg
Personally, I go to YouRube, click on the "Transcript" button found below "About".
Because I can read with good retention faster than they can talk & don't enjoy frequency shift the crappy YouBoob speed control imparts.
Here's a link to the YT channel. It's an audio only podcast at this time, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05tWoDWekp8
Leadership means speaking out on even the difficult things even when it can be politically damaging to yourself. Actually on the Gaza genocide it is shows moral courage that is what people are looking for and will vote for.
I'm so sad.
I may have to bail on Kiriakou, who I have been such a huge fan of for years. Israel is performing wholesale murder of civilians in Palestine. This is a Genocide. There is no possibility of Israel becoming a peaceful neighbor with a state of Palestine. And RFK Jr is a Zionist liar who has zero credibility on Israel/Palestine, because he does not recognize the right of Palestinians or the state of Palestine to exist. Also, regarding Kuwait/Iraq, the Bush administration essentially gave Iraq permission to act against Kuwait, and explicitly said we have no position regarding Arab-Arab conflicts. We wanted them to start another war in the region, it was our policy. Just as we aided both sides in the Iran-Iraq war previously. I am so disgusted when these truths are omitted to make the U.S. look fair or reasonable in any way.
FYI -- Putin sings Russian National Anthem -- https://youtu.be/p55qkzcxn1k?si=9EZ2-72seQAZbgFK
I agree Will Isaksson. I was in a similar place which you were, though I had some concerns. I pray RFK Jr. cleans it up!
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Thanks! Great conversation! Keep it up! Dulles name should be taken off the airport!