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It may be that Nuland hates America more than she hates Russia. After all, she has done more damage to America and our allies, both economically and socially, than she has done to Russia. The blood of millions is on her hands.

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It's unlikely she can love anything but herself, which would explain it.

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Nuland: “Most of the support we are providing actually goes right back into the U.S. economy and defense industrial base, helping to modernize and scale our own vital defense infrastructure while creating American jobs and economic growth. In fact, the first $75 billion package created good-paying American jobs in at least 40 states across the United States, and 90 percent of this next request will do the same…

It helps Ukraine, it provides jobs in the United States, and it serves as an economic stimulus. And I think countries like Germany are starting to see the same requirement. And so that’s – that is a good thing…

And I think right now we haven’t seen an either/or in Europe. We’ve seen a yes/and, including, again, countries like Germany looking at how you build weapons in Ukraine both for their market, for the global market, et cetera. So that is what we need to foster going forward. And I will tell you as somebody who works all around the world some of these really basic systems – you know, we make Cadillac of weapons, but some of the most basic stuff is needed by every – all over the place, by countries defending themselves against terrorism and other things."

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Yet, 5 Presidents let her get away with her murderous behavior.

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See Fauci, Anthony.

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How many more Nulands and Faucis remain? Perhaps the best evidence for ineptitude is how many Presidents a federal employee served under.

We probably need term limits for bureaucrats, too.

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Agreed. The position should then be posted for new hires and the most recent incumbent can reapply but the hiring decision should be made by an independent body if that is even possible to find these days.

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Fauci served under 8 Presidents from what I have read.

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A good recap of her exploits but not a word to support the headline claim that she was pushed out. By whom and how?

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You expect the Biden regime to tell the truth?

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My question is… Has anyone in her nuclear family fought in war? Her sons? Nephews? Friends?

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not that I have heard. but most of her family has profited from defense contractors.

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Agreed, it's ideological.

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She wants someone else's kids to die on the battlefield.

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Silly goose, fighting and dying are for the deplorables.

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👍🏼😂

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Great point, no skin in the game

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I know here two half brothers neither of whom served in the military.

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Victoria Nuland is said to have had two children with Robert Kagan. Just for fun, try to find out ANYTHING about these children- Their names, even. They have been disappeared by Google...

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Please don’t quote Noam Chomsky as a valid example/opinion on anything. He wanted to roundup and starve unvaccinated people.

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Very American to tear down a man who got so many other things right.

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Some things can’t be accepted—ever.

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Chomsky is old, and there are things I disagree with him, but he was a shining light for longer than I've been alive. I'll keep my disgust for the likes of Nuland, Trump and Biden.

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Tumor removed.

Disease to recur.

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The Devil visited CSIS, one of her favourite cults, to televise how her plans for Earth are doing. She rubbed her red right hand over her behemoth figure, and asked her host, Max Bergmann, how she looked. He responded, “Victoria Nuland’s body suits you.”

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Putin's "invasion" of Ukraine was not "villainous." Putin was trying to save his country and has succeeded.

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I have to agree. After reading Benjamin Abelow, listening to Jeffrey Sachs, and seeing a Scandinavian YouTube of the secretary general of NATO admit “Putin signed a peace agreement “. The interview with Putin appeared to confirm he wants to “protect” his country. Past behavior is not forgotten but we must live in the present to ever have change/ peace.

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George Kennan, the U.S.A.’s respected post-WW2 strategist, and most responsible for the containment of Russia during the Cold War, stated that: “NATO expansion will prove the greatest U.S. foreign policy blunder of the twentieth century.”

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As example of history returning to bite, Joe Biden, in 1998, said: “If my friends are saying anyone who votes for expanding NATO to include Poland, the Czech Republic, and Hungary, are tying this noose around a Russian neck, this iron ring, well, then I don’t quite get it."

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A transcript of a meeting between Gorbachev and US Secretary of State James Baker is a good intro to the topic. Baker states that: "Neither the President nor I intend to extract any unilateral advantages from the processes taking place... not an inch of NATO's present military jurisdiction will spread in an eastern direction."

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Yes, this information so clearly coincides with everything else I have researched. Initially, it was RFK I heard describing it , and he went back to his Uncle's negotiations. I went into the Russian experience in WWII and what they suffered (to receive little empathy or credit). Then I sought out others who reiterated the same facts. I also examined Putin in his interviews with Oliver Stone, years ago, to pick up his mannerisms and listen to the man himself. I also consulted with my Serbian born neighbor, who experienced war, and studied history, to give me a european perspective. The propaganda we Americans have been told exists in Russia, was just a projection of the propaganda being fed to us. People (usually, but not always, baby boomers) actually gasp when I mention the name Putin. Thank you for your work, I have recently been exploring the vast history of the ME. Might you have investigated that region?

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I don't want to disrespect the page by putting a bunch of off-topic links so I'll message you an alternative way to understand the Israel/Palestine situation.

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My goal of my page was to have my own opinion about what was happening in Ukraine, so my focus was there. Of course, what is happening in Palestine is a big deal, but my focus has been on commentary rather than history.

I'm South African, so I'm particularly interested in how my country is affected. We're currently being bullied by the USA for our ICJ case and refusal to condemn Putin. Elections around the corner, so there are some trying to influence its outcome (and nobody reports it because our media is mostly funded by western 'NGOs').

In that respect, have sympathy for normal Ukrainians and Israeli's who are being blown about by the people who were supposed to look after them.

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Chaos abounds. But I do believe it is a "turning of an age" and positive change will come. Thank you again, and I have neighbors also from South Africa (but living in US and UK for the past 5 years). I wonder what side of reality they perceive, because of course I would love their perspective. Why my generation was taught to never discuss religion and politics baffles me, how else are we able to learn and grow.

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We have plenty voluntary idiots here too.

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This idiocy jumped out at me as well.

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"Of course, Putin’s invasion was villainous" - Nonsense. US arming and funding neo-Nazis in Ukraine [who had killed tens of thousands of their OWN Russian speaking citizens since the '14 coup] - and then pushing for further NATO expansion up to Russia's border - THAT was villainous, murderously villainous.

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Robert Parry, the award-winning journalist blacklisted after his articles on the Iran-Contra affair, wrote that:

“…the U.S. government has spread around hundreds of millions of dollars to finance ‘journalism’ organizations, train political activists and support ‘non-governmental organizations’ that promote US policy goals inside targeted countries.

For instance, before the Feb. 22, 2014 coup in Ukraine, there were scores of such operations in the country financed by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), whose budget from Congress exceeds $100 million a year.  But NED, which has been run by neocon Carl Gershman since its founding in 1983, is only part of the picture. You have other propaganda fronts operating under the umbrella of the State Department and USAID…

USAID, working with billionaire George Soros’s Open Society, also funds the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, which engages in ‘investigative journalism’ that usually goes after governments that have fallen into disfavour with the United States and then are singled out for accusations of corruption…

The larger danger from this perversion of journalism is that it sets the stage for ‘regime changes’ that destabilize whole countries, thwart real democracy, and engender civil warfare. Today’s neoconservative dream of mounting a ‘regime change’ in Moscow is particularly dangerous to the future of both Russia and the world.”

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And no were in the article was any mention made of the Biolabs that the DOD built and had staffed in the Ukraine. What did they do, who paid for it, and you know Nuland knew what was going on and approved it and most likely got the money for it. Just add those labs to her resume.......

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Glenn Greenwald:

"The neocon official long, in charge of U.S. policy in Ukraine, testified on Monday before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and strongly suggested that such claims are, at least in part, true.

Senator Marco Rubio, hoping to debunk growing claims that there are chemical weapons labs in Ukraine, smugly asked Nuland: 'Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?'

Rubio undoubtedly expected a flat denial by Nuland, thus providing 'proof' that such speculation is dastardly Fake News emanating from the Kremlin, the CCP and QAnon.

Instead, Nuland did something completely uncharacteristic for her: for some reason, she told a version of the truth. Her answer visibly stunned Rubio, who–as soon as he realized the damage she was doing to the U.S. messaging campaign, demanded that she instead affirm that if a biological attack were to occur, everyone should be '100% sure' that it was Russia who did it. Grateful for the life raft, Nuland told Rubio he was right.

But Rubio’s clean-up act came too late. When asked whether Ukraine possesses 'chemical or biological weapons,' Nuland did not deny this: at all. She instead–with palpable pen-twirling discomfort and in halting speech, a glaring contrast to her normally cocky style, acknowledged: “Uh, Ukraine has, uh, biological research facilities.”

Any hope to depict such “facilities” as benign or banal was immediately destroyed by the warning she quickly added: 'We are now in fact quite concerned that Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to, uh, gain control of [those labs], so we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.'

What is in those Ukrainian biological labs that make them so worrisome and dangerous? And has Ukraine, not exactly known for being a great power with advanced biological research, had the assistance of any other countries in developing those dangerous substances?

.... It was Nuland herself, while working for Hillary Clinton and John Kerry’s State Department under President Obama, who was heavily involved in what some call the 2014 revolution and others call the 'coup' that resulted in a change of government in Ukraine from a Moscow-friendly regime to one far more favorable to the EU and the West. All of this took place as the Ukrainian energy company Burisma paid $50,000 per month not to the son of a Ukrainian official but to Joe Biden’s son, Hunter: a reflection of who wielded real power inside Ukraine."

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I believe I saw or heard tapes of this exact interaction. Unbelievable.

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Jack Posobiec. “She’s not fleeing the grift. She’s just fleeing Biden’s sinking ship”….and as always, with her own safety and pockets first and foremost

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Really liked the article Mr. Fleetwood, but I do have two questions if you read these comments. Using your provided links to research further I found that the linked Politico article was from 2018, not recent, and did not address in any manner US defense contractors. Did you mean to link a different Political article? I do wish that she was "pushed out," but see no evidence of that in your article nor in reality. The same neocon mindset prevails in Biden's Admin & Blinken's SoS, so I don't see why they would push someone like her out. Can you elaborate on why this is the title of your well written piece please. Overall this was a great condensation of the escapades that I know to be "Nuland the Swamp Monster." Thank you

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Good overview article, Blake. The entire US public should be aware of this history.

However, you say, "Of course, Putin’s invasion was villainous.". There's no need to pander to the ruling class or the tiny pro Ukraine crowd in the US. They are an insignificant number.

The entire history you cite in the article is proof positive that Putin was given no other option by our masters. He waited a very long time to make the decision to intervene and worked to avoid it by repeatedly trying to make a deal with our masters. In the end, had he not intervened when he did, he would have endangered his entire country.

If you don't believe me then just imagine the US was put in the same position by a belligerent great power with foreign troops massing on the Mexican border and systematically killing off the innocent inhabitants of the buffer region.

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Looking through the eyes of an opponent is the foundation of fair criticism.

The USA and Russia were long involved in a Cold War. Unlike the USA, an ocean away, the US fought its proxy war on Russia’s border.

Instead of disbanding after the Cold War ended, NATO expanded up until the new border of a smaller Russia.

The USA, although not a European country, has always been, in effect, the leader of NATO. It participated with Poland, Hungary, and Romania in nuclear war drills which means pointing nuclear warheads at Russia, a mere 10-15min flight away.

Putin has long expressed that NATO’s expansion is a threat to Russia’s security, and thus unacceptable. An example of this is his speech at the 2007 Munich Security Conference.

During Putin’s reign, between 2002 and 2020, the US renounced the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, and the Open Skies Treaty.

Russian fear is understandable.

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As much as I like this piece and approve of its sentiments, it includes a widespread and enduring misconception about Nuland and the 2014 coup against the elected government.

Nuland and U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt were not recorded planning Yanukovych's replacement as president. They were recorded plotting Nikolai Azarov's replacement as prime minister, since at that point Yanukovych had asked his government to resign to make way for the pro-Western opposition to take over the cabinet, including the premiership. The preferred choice of Nuland was "Yats" (Arsenal Yatsenyuk), who did actually end up becoming (a very unpopular) prime minister after Yanukovych was overthrown, when Ukraine had no president until Petro Poroshenko was elected several months later. Nuland and Pyatt never mentioned "Yanko" during the conversation recorded by the Russian intelligence services. It was all about "Yats" and other members of the parliamentary opposition and what they would be doing.

The reason I point out this small detail is that Nuland, however odious a figure, was probably forced out as a scapegoat for the CIA's failed and reckless escapades, over which she had no control. She is actually a "fall guy" for the disaster wrought on Ukraine through the establishment of CIA bases near the Russian border (along with, if Putin is to be believed, U.S. bio-labs). It couldn't have happened to a nicer person, but Nuland is really just the public face for a much deeper and more sinister policy of war, intervention and biosecurity.

With the benefit of hindsight, Putin's two-stage intervention makes plenty of sense, though it was hard to see at first. In February 2014, Putin watched a democratically elected Ukrainian president overthrown, and he watched the West legitimate the ouster even though the Ukrainian parliament never gained enough votes to make the coup legal under the Ukrainian constitution. To this day, that's what qualifies Yanukovych's ouster unambiguously as a "coup" in legal terms. It was never ratified by the country's national legislature.

In February 2022, Putin declared to the world that his "special military operation" was aimed at the "denazification" of Ukraine. But if in fact it was launched because he had discovered the CIA bases, it would make sense for him to use the "denazification" excuse. He is a former agent of the Soviet security services, after all, and he is unlikely to let the rest of the world know how much he knows. So in the eight years between 2014 and 2022, Ukraine wasn't just building a real army (which it had never had in its entire history). It was hosting a much more extensive U.S./NATO/CIA presence, some of it reaching far into the east of the country and close to the borders of Russia proper. That's Nuland's legacy in Ukraine.

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like the Terminator, she'll 'be back'. likely behind the scenes, where she'll be even less accountable. what scum.

agree with other commenters that its unclear that she was pushed; more likely just jumping ship, to wash ashore somewhere out of the limelight.

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She will go to work for some "think tank."

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Goliath treats both parties equally in its use of the captured and tethered techno bureaucrats it controls. There’s more where she came from.

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Great article. Nuland is a Zionist Neocon Hag! Supported by her Zionist Neocon husband Kagan. How has this policy worked out for America and the millions of slaughtered people?

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What does her being Jewish have to do with anything? A little bit of Jew hatred in this comment.

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