Blake, a very weak and lame response which unfortunately reflects Mr. Kennedy's position so far on the Genocide against Palestinians, wholly supported by our tax dollars. The Student protests, to many of us, are an inspiration and indication that our young people have conscience and intelligence to see through the corporate "Zionist's" control of our leaders and corporate America.
Blake, you referred to "The the hard-core protesters and agitators welcome aggressive riot squad actions, which bring more attention to their cause."
These are the provocateurs that AIPAC has hired and sent into these groups to diminish their cause and to give the Corporate media cover so they can report about violence when there is none with the exception of the over-zealous Police response.
I guess at least Mr. Kennedy is supporting the right to protest, even when it is against Israel's criminal behavior, which should be a fundamental right of all citizens who actually participate in our society. This right is definitely under attack.
Still waiting on Mr. Kennedy to actually 'change his mind' and give a crap about the 35k+ lives that have been exterminated by Israel using US weapons. Not to mention the destruction of all Universities, Hospitals and murder of 140+ Journalists in Gaza.
Yes, I'll still pull the lever for Mr. Kennedy over a choice of Biden or Trump, but he could do a lot better. Here's hoping.
Please address RFK's views of his billionaire supporter Bill Ackman's campaign to destroy the careers of all protestors by spending money on vans that label them anti-Semites and doxxes them with name, photo, etc . You said nothing about it in your post yesterday celebrating Ackman's support. The cognitive dissonance of this post after yesterday's hurts. https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/billionaire-bill-ackman-speaks-up
Yep. Jill Stein and Cornell West are the only two candidates showing any integrity re: opposing the new holocaust. Only Stein's campaign is poised to make a dent in the donor-controlled (I'm including you, RFK) duopoly. She's earning my vote, not stealing it.
Unfortunately, Cornell West seems to be a shill for the Dem party establishment on all other issues. Jill Stein seems like the real deal, a person of integrity and courage.
Agreed. All this guy does is call everyone a fascist, while addressing certain vampires as Brother Biden and Sister Harris. (While also comparing MI6 stooge Navalny as a Russian Mandela.)
Why, Blumenthal will just want to debate which side is most righteous, frankly I'm sick of the endless debate. How about a debate about solutions which Blumenthal has zero of.
I understand your ennui with self righteousness. It is easy for any us to sound like canned caricatures of well rehearsed talking points, no matter how true or compromised those yadda yadda stayements may be.. Yawn. I have a short attention span for that too. But this just came in today. Thoughtful words that maybe RFK and his faithful team will want to entertain an open, thoughtful and sincere dialogue with. It could be a beneficial opening for all concerned. Please give this letter of resignation from the Biden administration a close read. I bet the author can put forward a few effective next steps towards a "solution" to the worst excesses in the promised lands:
I've said it before, but Kennedy needs to call it what it is: a genocide. Calling for debate and expressing concern about the subjective and almost always baseless fears of Zionist students is ridiculous in the face of this clear as day atrocity. Some college kid feels "fear" seeing a protest, while tend of thousands innocent women and children are slaughtered. Think about it for a moment.
There is a huge, untapped anti war vote out there. Kennedy looked good on Ukraine, but he's taking the wrong stance on this issue. He can't afford such mistakes with the two big parties and several power centers gunning for him.
Even from a conservative nationalist perspective, supporting a genocide is and will continue to ruin the image of the US globally. John Mearsheimer gets that, so why can't Kennedy?
It's time to sit down with the team and rethink the approach to this issue.
No, Blake, this is not Vietnam and the attendant student protests of that era. No Americans are fighting and dying in the Middle East. In fact, Hamas has taken Americans hostage - and the campus protestors in effect say "Great, do more!" Chants to destroy an entire people due to their religion are nothing like chants to get soldiers out of a tiny Southeast Asia country; they are far worse and even genocidal. Biden and Trump are not against protest - they are against violence and violation of property rights, bullying and intimidation. The pro-Hamas group - trained and assisted by professional protestors, not students - is always the first one to call for violence. Any violent and lawbreaking group needs to be forcefully stopped, not encircled with singing "Kumbaya" or parroting Jonathan Winters in "The Russians Are Coming": "Why can't we all just get along?" That's what RFK Jr should be saying. His father - the former Attorney General - would agree that groups which break the law need to be cleared out, fast.
"Here is an exceptionally well-crafted segment of the Al Jazeera program called Listening Post, broadcast over the weekend under the headline, “The problem with the coverage of the U.S. campus protests.” ... Listen to the commentary. It is clear, analytic, grounded in reality, professional, dispassionate, more or less spotlessly objective. It is near to impossible to find footage of campus events this bold, this balanced, this undoctored, and it is absolutely impossible to find analysis and commentary of this insight and honesty in American media.
On American screens we instead see this presentation ... in a segment of Inside Politics, Dana Bash’s CNN program. Let me go back to that list of attributes just mentioned. This piece is neither clear nor analytic nor grounded in reality nor professional nor dispassionate, and it does not even pretend to objectivity. … 'We start with destruction, violence and hate on college campuses across the country,” Bash begins. … Making Jewish students feel unsafe at their own schools is unacceptable, and it is happening way too much right now.”
How about Kennedy does a bit of protesting himself???
How about Kennedy condemns Israel genocide in Gaza?
But no. That's not happening. Our man of peace, our man of ending forever wars could quite rise to the occasion and say something. Like Martin Luther King would have said something. Like call out Israel.
Instead a deafening silence.
And craven acquiescence to the Israel lobby.
Kennedy tanked when he had that gut-squirming interview with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. That's when my estimation of the man tanked. Up to that point I was volunteering and handing out leaflets for his campaign.
Blake, your article squirms. Just like Kennedy did when he took his marching orders from his friend Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. You just spent two pages dancing round the elephant in the room.
There's genocide in Gaza. And Kennedy can't bring himself to condemn it.
I'm not the only one disgusted by Kennedy's cowardice. He's losing support over this. Check out Edward Curtin's masterful vale:
A year ago, when RFK flip-flopped on his support for Roger Waters, he started to lose me. Since then, he's lost those in the alternative media who once considered throwing their support behind RFK (e.g. Jimmy Dore, Max Blumenthal, Kim Iversen, Glenn Greenwald, Dave Smith, etc.).
Dennis Kucinich (RFK's former campaign manager fired shortly after 10/7) when recently questioned on the subject said there is no greater supporter of Israel than RFK. So, best case, RFK is irrationally blinded by his "love" for Israel and thus not able/willing to have anyone "show me where I'm wrong" on the facts. Tragic, pathetic way to potentially lose the election. (he's lost a lot of votes with the young who are politically aware and active). Hopefully, RFK might still be able to win as the lesser of three evils come November, since he's a better alternative than President Biden or Trump.
Debate with someone whose only goal is your death isn’t possible. Those calling for River to the sea Palestine shall be free can not be debated as they are calling for the extermination of the Jewish people.
The right to protest is not the right to act violently and throw Molotov cocktails, burn cars and stores and assault anyone who does not agree all in the name of "resistance" as "legitimised" by Frantz Fanon and Jean Paul Sartre. Martin Luther King and his followers, Gandhi and his followers are shining examples of what protest is in civilised society, but Western barbarians mostly have no idea.
"Here is an exceptionally well-crafted segment of the Al Jazeera program called Listening Post, broadcast over the weekend under the headline, “The problem with the coverage of the U.S. campus protests.” ... Listen to the commentary. It is clear, analytic, grounded in reality, professional, dispassionate, more or less spotlessly objective. It is near to impossible to find footage of campus events this bold, this balanced, this undoctored, and it is absolutely impossible to find analysis and commentary of this insight and honesty in American media.
On American screens we instead see this presentation ... in a segment of Inside Politics, Dana Bash’s CNN program. Let me go back to that list of attributes just mentioned. This piece is neither clear nor analytic nor grounded in reality nor professional nor dispassionate, and it does not even pretend to objectivity. … 'We start with destruction, violence and hate on college campuses across the country,” Bash begins. … Making Jewish students feel unsafe at their own schools is unacceptable, and it is happening way too much right now.”
Did I miss something? From this article I gleaned no common ground between those who oppose and those support genocide. All I see is Kennedy confound the two with the whitewash bias of the mainstream press.
"Robert Kennedy Jr.—who is fundamentally a peace candidate like his uncle, President John F. Kennedy, and his father, Senator Robert F. Kennedy—takes a more nuanced approach to a complicated situation. "
I see... like when he professes "unconditional support for Israel"... "unconditional" includes armed help and censorship of the critical views, just what Biden is doing now... Mr. Kennedy is in this matter Biden 2.0.
Mr. Kennedy will probably not mandate vaccines, but would drag us into a nuclear war anyway...
Considering how he sold out any principle he had thus far, I wouldn't be shocked to hear him defend Pfizer and Mode RNA now...
Kennedy can call for peaceful dialogue until he's exhausted but it is a futile gesture. The progressive left has been allowed to shout down and cancel anyone they disagree with for so long that it's now ingrained. Debate yes, breaking the law no. And how about pointing out that the funding for the protests coming from Soros and other globalists. Trump will benefit from this situation, and if he doesn't come out more forcefully for law and order Kennedy will loose support as well.
Yo, guy, we read you the first time. Stop shouting. This problem started before any of us were born. To really get the truth we must study history and wade through both sides of a century of slanted "facts". As usual the truth is neither in black or white but somewhere in the grey, it usually is financial. The control of media with "if it bleeds it leads" removes the history and highlights the divide while diminishing the facts. In my opinion universities should turn current events into learning experiences, open their resources to all opinions with teach ins and more education representing all sides. By calling in armed soldiers who are trained to treat people like criminals they create a worse outcome. We need to remove money and bias from the media and education and our government to help the new generation or our experiment with democracy will shortly and surely fail. Kennedy is the remedy, I for one can't wait for his honest cabinet appointments and common sense leadership.
Blake, a very weak and lame response which unfortunately reflects Mr. Kennedy's position so far on the Genocide against Palestinians, wholly supported by our tax dollars. The Student protests, to many of us, are an inspiration and indication that our young people have conscience and intelligence to see through the corporate "Zionist's" control of our leaders and corporate America.
Blake, you referred to "The the hard-core protesters and agitators welcome aggressive riot squad actions, which bring more attention to their cause."
These are the provocateurs that AIPAC has hired and sent into these groups to diminish their cause and to give the Corporate media cover so they can report about violence when there is none with the exception of the over-zealous Police response.
I guess at least Mr. Kennedy is supporting the right to protest, even when it is against Israel's criminal behavior, which should be a fundamental right of all citizens who actually participate in our society. This right is definitely under attack.
Still waiting on Mr. Kennedy to actually 'change his mind' and give a crap about the 35k+ lives that have been exterminated by Israel using US weapons. Not to mention the destruction of all Universities, Hospitals and murder of 140+ Journalists in Gaza.
Yes, I'll still pull the lever for Mr. Kennedy over a choice of Biden or Trump, but he could do a lot better. Here's hoping.
Kennedy is somewhat better... unless he does an "Annalena 360", as he did with his VP pick or taking munnies from Super PACs...
With Kennedy, a nuclear war is still very possible, vaccinated or not... if he doesn't understand that. he is NOT GOOD ENOUGH!
Please address RFK's views of his billionaire supporter Bill Ackman's campaign to destroy the careers of all protestors by spending money on vans that label them anti-Semites and doxxes them with name, photo, etc . You said nothing about it in your post yesterday celebrating Ackman's support. The cognitive dissonance of this post after yesterday's hurts. https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/billionaire-bill-ackman-speaks-up
Politics are just so neat. They are such great b grade actors. I think Bobby should sit down with Max Blumenthal (like he said he would last summer) to have a nice exenplary dialogue. Maybe he can share nuanced insights about he and his billionaire supporters super green mean vision for Palestine post-genocide: https://open.substack.com/pub/beeley/p/gaza-2035-netanyahus-dystopian-vision?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=7w1it
Yep. Jill Stein and Cornell West are the only two candidates showing any integrity re: opposing the new holocaust. Only Stein's campaign is poised to make a dent in the donor-controlled (I'm including you, RFK) duopoly. She's earning my vote, not stealing it.
Unfortunately, Cornell West seems to be a shill for the Dem party establishment on all other issues. Jill Stein seems like the real deal, a person of integrity and courage.
Agreed. All this guy does is call everyone a fascist, while addressing certain vampires as Brother Biden and Sister Harris. (While also comparing MI6 stooge Navalny as a Russian Mandela.)
Agree on the second part, haven't followed Cornell since his campaign confusions showed he had no chance.
Why, Blumenthal will just want to debate which side is most righteous, frankly I'm sick of the endless debate. How about a debate about solutions which Blumenthal has zero of.
I understand your ennui with self righteousness. It is easy for any us to sound like canned caricatures of well rehearsed talking points, no matter how true or compromised those yadda yadda stayements may be.. Yawn. I have a short attention span for that too. But this just came in today. Thoughtful words that maybe RFK and his faithful team will want to entertain an open, thoughtful and sincere dialogue with. It could be a beneficial opening for all concerned. Please give this letter of resignation from the Biden administration a close read. I bet the author can put forward a few effective next steps towards a "solution" to the worst excesses in the promised lands:
https://open.substack.com/pub/decensorednews/p/jewish-biden-staffer-resigns-israel-gaza?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=7w1it
I've said it before, but Kennedy needs to call it what it is: a genocide. Calling for debate and expressing concern about the subjective and almost always baseless fears of Zionist students is ridiculous in the face of this clear as day atrocity. Some college kid feels "fear" seeing a protest, while tend of thousands innocent women and children are slaughtered. Think about it for a moment.
There is a huge, untapped anti war vote out there. Kennedy looked good on Ukraine, but he's taking the wrong stance on this issue. He can't afford such mistakes with the two big parties and several power centers gunning for him.
Even from a conservative nationalist perspective, supporting a genocide is and will continue to ruin the image of the US globally. John Mearsheimer gets that, so why can't Kennedy?
It's time to sit down with the team and rethink the approach to this issue.
No, Blake, this is not Vietnam and the attendant student protests of that era. No Americans are fighting and dying in the Middle East. In fact, Hamas has taken Americans hostage - and the campus protestors in effect say "Great, do more!" Chants to destroy an entire people due to their religion are nothing like chants to get soldiers out of a tiny Southeast Asia country; they are far worse and even genocidal. Biden and Trump are not against protest - they are against violence and violation of property rights, bullying and intimidation. The pro-Hamas group - trained and assisted by professional protestors, not students - is always the first one to call for violence. Any violent and lawbreaking group needs to be forcefully stopped, not encircled with singing "Kumbaya" or parroting Jonathan Winters in "The Russians Are Coming": "Why can't we all just get along?" That's what RFK Jr should be saying. His father - the former Attorney General - would agree that groups which break the law need to be cleared out, fast.
“... we cannot tolerate a situation in which Jewish and Israeli students are afraid to walk to class.”
From https://scheerpost.com/2024/05/09/patrick-lawrence-university-an-attack-on-intelligence/
"Here is an exceptionally well-crafted segment of the Al Jazeera program called Listening Post, broadcast over the weekend under the headline, “The problem with the coverage of the U.S. campus protests.” ... Listen to the commentary. It is clear, analytic, grounded in reality, professional, dispassionate, more or less spotlessly objective. It is near to impossible to find footage of campus events this bold, this balanced, this undoctored, and it is absolutely impossible to find analysis and commentary of this insight and honesty in American media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4f9ulAAdJA
On American screens we instead see this presentation ... in a segment of Inside Politics, Dana Bash’s CNN program. Let me go back to that list of attributes just mentioned. This piece is neither clear nor analytic nor grounded in reality nor professional nor dispassionate, and it does not even pretend to objectivity. … 'We start with destruction, violence and hate on college campuses across the country,” Bash begins. … Making Jewish students feel unsafe at their own schools is unacceptable, and it is happening way too much right now.”
https://twitter.com/DanaBashCNN/status/1785725450527842512
Thank your for posting these links, especially the link to the
Al Jazeera piece.
BTW, another take on the campus protests:
https://www.compactmag.com/article/behind-the-ivy-intifada/?ref=compact-newsletter
“Kennedy Welcomes Student Protests” Huh?
How about Kennedy does a bit of protesting himself???
How about Kennedy condemns Israel genocide in Gaza?
But no. That's not happening. Our man of peace, our man of ending forever wars could quite rise to the occasion and say something. Like Martin Luther King would have said something. Like call out Israel.
Instead a deafening silence.
And craven acquiescence to the Israel lobby.
Kennedy tanked when he had that gut-squirming interview with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. That's when my estimation of the man tanked. Up to that point I was volunteering and handing out leaflets for his campaign.
Blake, your article squirms. Just like Kennedy did when he took his marching orders from his friend Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. You just spent two pages dancing round the elephant in the room.
There's genocide in Gaza. And Kennedy can't bring himself to condemn it.
I'm not the only one disgusted by Kennedy's cowardice. He's losing support over this. Check out Edward Curtin's masterful vale:
An Epistle to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
By Edward Curtin
Global Research, November 12, 2023
https://www.globalresearch.ca/an-epistle-to-robert-f-kennedy-jr/5839736
~~oo~~OO~~OO~~OO~~oo~~
Nice link to Curtin's "epistle". I remember reading it last year Worth reading. Even more relevant 6 months later.
A year ago, when RFK flip-flopped on his support for Roger Waters, he started to lose me. Since then, he's lost those in the alternative media who once considered throwing their support behind RFK (e.g. Jimmy Dore, Max Blumenthal, Kim Iversen, Glenn Greenwald, Dave Smith, etc.).
Dennis Kucinich (RFK's former campaign manager fired shortly after 10/7) when recently questioned on the subject said there is no greater supporter of Israel than RFK. So, best case, RFK is irrationally blinded by his "love" for Israel and thus not able/willing to have anyone "show me where I'm wrong" on the facts. Tragic, pathetic way to potentially lose the election. (he's lost a lot of votes with the young who are politically aware and active). Hopefully, RFK might still be able to win as the lesser of three evils come November, since he's a better alternative than President Biden or Trump.
Debate with someone whose only goal is your death isn’t possible. Those calling for River to the sea Palestine shall be free can not be debated as they are calling for the extermination of the Jewish people.
Are we still at unconditional Israeli support in your candidacy?
The right to protest is not the right to act violently and throw Molotov cocktails, burn cars and stores and assault anyone who does not agree all in the name of "resistance" as "legitimised" by Frantz Fanon and Jean Paul Sartre. Martin Luther King and his followers, Gandhi and his followers are shining examples of what protest is in civilised society, but Western barbarians mostly have no idea.
“... we cannot tolerate a situation in which Jewish and Israeli students are afraid to walk to class.”
From https://scheerpost.com/2024/05/09/patrick-lawrence-university-an-attack-on-intelligence/
"Here is an exceptionally well-crafted segment of the Al Jazeera program called Listening Post, broadcast over the weekend under the headline, “The problem with the coverage of the U.S. campus protests.” ... Listen to the commentary. It is clear, analytic, grounded in reality, professional, dispassionate, more or less spotlessly objective. It is near to impossible to find footage of campus events this bold, this balanced, this undoctored, and it is absolutely impossible to find analysis and commentary of this insight and honesty in American media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4f9ulAAdJA
On American screens we instead see this presentation ... in a segment of Inside Politics, Dana Bash’s CNN program. Let me go back to that list of attributes just mentioned. This piece is neither clear nor analytic nor grounded in reality nor professional nor dispassionate, and it does not even pretend to objectivity. … 'We start with destruction, violence and hate on college campuses across the country,” Bash begins. … Making Jewish students feel unsafe at their own schools is unacceptable, and it is happening way too much right now.”
https://twitter.com/DanaBashCNN/status/1785725450527842512
Did I miss something? From this article I gleaned no common ground between those who oppose and those support genocide. All I see is Kennedy confound the two with the whitewash bias of the mainstream press.
Something like this would be written by someone named Blake Fleetwood.
Just more gutless babble. And compared to RFK '68, Bobby Jr's "courage" doesn't even register. (Such as that pathetic VP choice. . .)
What is RFK Jr. stand on GENOCIDE in general?
And on GENOCIDE in Gaza specifically?
And on 70++ years of terror and apartheid of Palestinians?
For people still interested in comparing evils:
"Yes, he will still get us nuked, but at least we will not be mandated toxic vaccines"...
"Robert Kennedy Jr.—who is fundamentally a peace candidate like his uncle, President John F. Kennedy, and his father, Senator Robert F. Kennedy—takes a more nuanced approach to a complicated situation. "
I see... like when he professes "unconditional support for Israel"... "unconditional" includes armed help and censorship of the critical views, just what Biden is doing now... Mr. Kennedy is in this matter Biden 2.0.
Mr. Kennedy will probably not mandate vaccines, but would drag us into a nuclear war anyway...
Considering how he sold out any principle he had thus far, I wouldn't be shocked to hear him defend Pfizer and Mode RNA now...
Just another hypocrite!
Kennedy can call for peaceful dialogue until he's exhausted but it is a futile gesture. The progressive left has been allowed to shout down and cancel anyone they disagree with for so long that it's now ingrained. Debate yes, breaking the law no. And how about pointing out that the funding for the protests coming from Soros and other globalists. Trump will benefit from this situation, and if he doesn't come out more forcefully for law and order Kennedy will loose support as well.
Yo, guy, we read you the first time. Stop shouting. This problem started before any of us were born. To really get the truth we must study history and wade through both sides of a century of slanted "facts". As usual the truth is neither in black or white but somewhere in the grey, it usually is financial. The control of media with "if it bleeds it leads" removes the history and highlights the divide while diminishing the facts. In my opinion universities should turn current events into learning experiences, open their resources to all opinions with teach ins and more education representing all sides. By calling in armed soldiers who are trained to treat people like criminals they create a worse outcome. We need to remove money and bias from the media and education and our government to help the new generation or our experiment with democracy will shortly and surely fail. Kennedy is the remedy, I for one can't wait for his honest cabinet appointments and common sense leadership.