You do not have to suggest that JD co-opted RFK Jr.' s vision. Read Hillbilly Elegy. Review Vance's Senate campaign. Review what JD has done since he became a Senator. Vance has had these values for years. He didn't get them from Kennedy. To suggest so is a shameful lie.
A more persuasive argument would be, look Republicans, Vance and I share many values. Here's where we don't agree, and why. Then explain why the overall RFK way is the right way for America.
This whole article undercuts Kennedy's contention that he's a different kind of candidate.
Trump rode in on these coat tails the first time around ! Economic disenfranchisement in the fly over States is an existential fact. Bernie began getting traction and drawing large crowds talking about it in 2015. When the DNC stymied his surge, Trump picked up on the buzz. A Green Party exit poll showed that 68% of white men and 23% of white women who would have voted for Bernie Sanders voted for Trump instead. There are many such governance and accountability issues in which the duopoly parties are two sides of the same coin.
REally Willard, wasn't Williard a famous rat? Rode in on coat tails?? Wow such a way with words. Howz about this "slick Willy"? Then there are those polls and the duopoly rap.
It is easy for us to spot a bottom feeding mis-info bot like you. We have no expectation that you are programmed to recognize a Teutonic surname. Clearly, you are preoccupied with B Movies from the last millennium. You are only as good as your programer. Shite in, shite out, shite for brains. Don't waste our time.
Read a little bit more about JD Vance as a person and not base things on a book that he has written. I'm from that area. What about the environment he was raised in? Is it acceptable to steal to get by? You betcha. What matters is that you get by. Of course JD Vance copied from RFK JR.
For all but ten years of my life, I have lived in Western Pennsylvania or the Northern panhandle of West.Virginia (I am 75). I was lucky, in that I was able to afford college without student loans ( public universities were cheap in the 60s and 70s). But I was a witness to the destruction of the steel industry in both states, and the misery and despair wrought by this. Much of the lower middle class just evaporated. Of course people did things to get by. It is wrong to steal. But it is wrong to take political action that destroys jobs and hope and do nothing for those left behind. You, pointing out the "environment" he was raised in, sound like a coastal elite, in spite your statement "from that area".
I believe in medical freedom and unfettered free speech. So does RFK Jr. Did I steal my beliefs from him?
It should also be mentioned that Vance is a Theil protégé. And that these ties his mentor show up in the corporate interests rather than any real interests in the will of the common folk. Trump has gone on to court the swampiest for appointments rather than any real men of character, again showing that his rhetoric of the vague slogan of "drain the swamp" does not exclude but invites the oligarchy of billionaires that rule our country in hidden plays. Pro-war, pro- surveillance, and pro-merger of corporate capture that Kennedy has fought against for a lifetime is lain bare to anyone with eyes in the Trump vp pick, along with his campaign manager pick and his courting of JP Morgan's Jaime Dimon and Blackrock's Larry Fink.
Shanahan divorced Google and has a portfolio of working for the people, children's health, soil regeneration and women's health...you cannot compare the two.
Using that guilt by association logic RFK is widely hated by most of his "family" comes from a Dem wealthy political family that is a bit swampy. Prefer that change of heart possibility.
What elso ya got Jessy? Guilt by association ain't working so well.
The Dems are the party of War, Slavery, divide and conquer, Blk discrimination, KKK etc etc
RFK is "open" to a kiss and make up session with the DNC while he waffles about
This isn't guilt by association. He has been mentored by Thiel since Yale. He s is a carpet bagger, selling an image. Follow the money... who is behind America PAC and why? Who is behind surveillance technology and has ties to intelligence? Maybe you should know the candidate before you defend him.
And RFK doesn't want to "kiss and make-up" he is exposing their cheating and corruption. He has been fighting corruption for 40 years.
Lol. Only in your delusional world, TS! Almost every day you show us w/your word salad comments and cutting remarks you are clueless to what’s happening out here!! #kennedy24
Because the Democrat support is actually not heartfelt, but motivated by fear of Trump, and going with the option they think "can win". Head to head in polling, Kennedy beats Trump.
Great leaders are not concerned with who gets the credit, even in a world that is obsessed with who does. Think of the words from Solomon in the Bible… All is vanity. It’s the core motivation for most of the actions and decisions we make. And most of us don’t have a clue as to how much it controls us. How easy it is to manipulate the swollen ego of man.
The only, and most important part of this steaming pile of Amish exhaust is that Bobbie Kennedy grew up in posh surroundings, giving lip service to flyover country while flying over it.
Great minds think alike. I support both Kennedy and Vance - as my backgound form a poor family and I was lucky to become and engineer and then a lawyer. I agree with both RFK and Vance - all I want is their visions realized.
Not surprising. JD Vance is from the Vance family which has roots in West Virginia. Vances will steal to get ahead. The honor is in winning, not how it is achieved. "Devil" Anse Hatfield of the Hatfield-McCoy Feud which happened after the Civil War in WV was related to this family. His mother's maiden names was Vance. I say appointing JD Vance as his vice-president is part of Trump's behavior that he historically uses to psych out opponents. Also related to the same extended Vance family is Cyrus Vance, Jr, who is a former District Attorney for New York. His father, Cyrus Vance Sr, was born in Clarksburg, WV.
Not surprising. JD Vance is a Vance. Vances will steal and do anything to win. The honor for them is winning, no how you got there. The Vance family has roots in southern West Virginia. JD Vance is descended from the same extended family as "Devil" Anse Hatfield of the Hatfield-McCoy Feud in West Virginia. His mother's maiden name was Vance. I say appointing JD Vance is also part of Trump's "psych out" or element of surprise that he uses against opponents. Not to suggest Cyrus Vance is a thief - he left the environment. But he is also from the same extended family. Cyrus Vance relative was born in Clarksburg also worked in the Kennedy administration as Sec. of the Army and General Counsel for the Department of Defense, was born in Clarksburg and is also part of this extended family. Cyrus Vance, Jr. is a former Manhattan District Attorney in New York and in his job capacity has had 'dealings' with the Trump family, most notably when charges were brought against the Trump Organization for Tax Fraud in 2021.
If you vote democrat you’re voting for a war against Russia. If you’re voting republican you’re picking up a fight against Iran and china. I rather very much choose Kennedy’s approach: “…our country’s “destiny” is “not to dominate the world, but to inspire it.”
Einstein said that if you look far enough into the distance you will see the back of your own head. Politics is the same way: those on the far right and the far left share similar views. Susan, below, is correct in that Vance did not steal stuff. He has his own views that are common to the populist Maga movement, and Kennedy has his own views that are common to old-school Democrats. Both groups have much more in common than a lot of people wish to believe.
"Kennedy’s commitment to peace ... has a uniquely visionary and even spiritual quality to it."
. . .
RFK recently posted Part II of his Palestine/Israel “Pathway to Peace” on YouTube & Rumble (since removed). That same day, Yaniv Cogan's piece on Israel's “the no day after” plan for Gaza was posted by Jeremy Schahill https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israel-is-reviewing-a-proposal-to Israel's “Pathway to Peace” reminds me of Tacitus’ quote: “They make a desert and call it peace.”
“On Thursday, the Israeli Knesset voted overwhelmingly to thwart any effort to establish an independent Palestinian state … doubled down on Israel’s longstanding project of confining Palestinians in increasingly isolated and uninhabitable ghettos.”
“… Israel appears dedicated to implementing a policy of “no day after” for the Palestinians in Gaza. … … leadership remains committed to the implementation of a genocidal policy that would render Gaza permanently uninhabitable. … undermining claims that the assault on Gaza is a targeted operation focused solely on Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.”
“Dan Schueftan … explained, “Ground invasions should be carried out, perhaps under the banner of ‘harming enemy forces,’ but their real significance is the devastation they leave behind them. I don’t mind that as a pretext we claim that there is some military objective, because that’s required by all these International Law people, so we can bring in some lawyer to explain how to do it ...”
“Blaming Hamas for Israel’s destruction of Gaza is essential to the plan to replace it. … “Can Hamas be eliminated?” He emphasized that Israel’s destruction of Gaza was an essential component of the efforts to marginalize Hamas: “Once you make it clear that [Hamas] not only did not win, but that it has brought about a horrific catastrophe upon itself, and also upon its people ... and when this ends with Hamas’s metaphorical and non-metaphorical corpse laying on the floor, robbed and finished off, this will have a very positive echo.”
Gaza is more than an echo of the Nazi's destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943. When the German soldiers met stiff resistance from the Jewish freedom fighters, they burned the place down to the ground, along with most of it's civilian inhabitants. The few survivors were sent to concentration camps. I think the words "Holocaust" or "Nakba" or "Genocide" apply to the liquidation of both ghettos.
"For Kennedy ... humility manifests as an open invitation to challenge his beliefs. “You can always change my mind with facts,” Kennedy said in a May interview. “If you […] show me I'm wrong about one of my presumptions, I'm gonna change my mind.”
. . .
“The only sin is pride.” RFK Sr quoted that line from Sophocles's play in a 1968 speech against the Vietnam War. "Conflict in Vietnam and at home":“... a third great cause of discontent is the course we are following in Vietnam: in a war which has divided Americans … I am concerned … that the course we are following at the present time is deeply wrong. … that we are acting as if no other nations existed, against the judgment and desires of neutrals and our historic allies alike … that our present course will not bring victory; will not bring peace; will not stop the bloodshed; and will not advance the interests of the United States or the cause of peace in the world. I am concerned that, at the end of it all … they may say, as Tacitus said of Rome: "They made a desert, and called it peace."
“I was involved in many of the early decisions on Vietnam, decisions that helped set us on our present path. It may be that the effort was doomed from the start … But past error is no excuse for its own perpetuation. Tragedy is a tool for the living to gain wisdom, not a guide by which to live. Now as ever, we do ourselves best justice when we measure ourselves against ancient tests, as in the Antigone of Sophocles: "All men make mistakes, but a good man yields when he knows his course is wrong, and repairs the evil. The only sin is pride."
His son, RFK, Jr is also fond of that quote. He used it to preface his 2016 book and in a 12/11/23 tweet. So, it's tragic RFK hasn't followed in his father's footsteps to apply Sophocles's advice and reconsidered his support of the on-going "path to peace" today.
Unfortunately, RFK is still parroting the same propaganda (from folks like Shmuley Boteach or John Spencer) as he did 8 months ago. He hasn't learned a thing. It appears pride is his sin, his Achilles heel. RFK refuses to listen "to the other side' (e.g. Max Blumenthal, etc.) and learn the truth about Gaza, "admit his error, and to make amends.
The values that many here credit to RFK did not originate with him. Through his life experience and the grace of God he has learned them along the way. They are there for all who want to change their lives for the better. And when honest virtuous values are displayed and accepted by others as well you should be glad and hope that they will spread to all. He who is without sin cast the first stone.
You do not have to suggest that JD co-opted RFK Jr.' s vision. Read Hillbilly Elegy. Review Vance's Senate campaign. Review what JD has done since he became a Senator. Vance has had these values for years. He didn't get them from Kennedy. To suggest so is a shameful lie.
A more persuasive argument would be, look Republicans, Vance and I share many values. Here's where we don't agree, and why. Then explain why the overall RFK way is the right way for America.
This whole article undercuts Kennedy's contention that he's a different kind of candidate.
Trump rode in on these coat tails the first time around ! Economic disenfranchisement in the fly over States is an existential fact. Bernie began getting traction and drawing large crowds talking about it in 2015. When the DNC stymied his surge, Trump picked up on the buzz. A Green Party exit poll showed that 68% of white men and 23% of white women who would have voted for Bernie Sanders voted for Trump instead. There are many such governance and accountability issues in which the duopoly parties are two sides of the same coin.
REally Willard, wasn't Williard a famous rat? Rode in on coat tails?? Wow such a way with words. Howz about this "slick Willy"? Then there are those polls and the duopoly rap.
How totally content devoid and sophomoric.
Get your head out of your ass scumbag !!!
thank you for affirming my assessment Willy
It is easy for us to spot a bottom feeding mis-info bot like you. We have no expectation that you are programmed to recognize a Teutonic surname. Clearly, you are preoccupied with B Movies from the last millennium. You are only as good as your programer. Shite in, shite out, shite for brains. Don't waste our time.
Speak for thyself Willy, Teutonic or ratlike?
Although that comment does indicate a few brain cells unlike the previous.
Oink
This is a common idiomatic phrase meaning your'e full of shit.
Try harder, you are not doing well.
Read a little bit more about JD Vance as a person and not base things on a book that he has written. I'm from that area. What about the environment he was raised in? Is it acceptable to steal to get by? You betcha. What matters is that you get by. Of course JD Vance copied from RFK JR.
For all but ten years of my life, I have lived in Western Pennsylvania or the Northern panhandle of West.Virginia (I am 75). I was lucky, in that I was able to afford college without student loans ( public universities were cheap in the 60s and 70s). But I was a witness to the destruction of the steel industry in both states, and the misery and despair wrought by this. Much of the lower middle class just evaporated. Of course people did things to get by. It is wrong to steal. But it is wrong to take political action that destroys jobs and hope and do nothing for those left behind. You, pointing out the "environment" he was raised in, sound like a coastal elite, in spite your statement "from that area".
I believe in medical freedom and unfettered free speech. So does RFK Jr. Did I steal my beliefs from him?
"like: is not working
Jeet jet ?
https://youtu.be/cMYdu-vTuPI?si=TYDaci7Tl9SHz6D7
Yes, I love Whitney Web ! I just watched a 90 minute discussion of this topic with her on The Jimmy Dore Show.
It's much easier to send me to YouTube. If you wish to refute what I said, refute it in your words, not words of others I have no acquaintance with.
I love Witney Web. and just watched a 90 minute chat on the same topic with her and Jimmy Dore.
the reason Jessy has no words is because she has no words
disinfo bot
It should also be mentioned that Vance is a Theil protégé. And that these ties his mentor show up in the corporate interests rather than any real interests in the will of the common folk. Trump has gone on to court the swampiest for appointments rather than any real men of character, again showing that his rhetoric of the vague slogan of "drain the swamp" does not exclude but invites the oligarchy of billionaires that rule our country in hidden plays. Pro-war, pro- surveillance, and pro-merger of corporate capture that Kennedy has fought against for a lifetime is lain bare to anyone with eyes in the Trump vp pick, along with his campaign manager pick and his courting of JP Morgan's Jaime Dimon and Blackrock's Larry Fink.
Let’s not talk about Vance-Thiel without bringing up Nicole-Google. Just take people on their ideas.
Shanahan divorced Google and has a portfolio of working for the people, children's health, soil regeneration and women's health...you cannot compare the two.
that is fabulous!! Wise people consistently make better choices
That does not remotely make them Presidential. That is the point.
That doesn't make sense. You can do better.
Using that guilt by association logic RFK is widely hated by most of his "family" comes from a Dem wealthy political family that is a bit swampy. Prefer that change of heart possibility.
What elso ya got Jessy? Guilt by association ain't working so well.
The Dems are the party of War, Slavery, divide and conquer, Blk discrimination, KKK etc etc
RFK is "open" to a kiss and make up session with the DNC while he waffles about
the 3 most important issue. Try harder Jessy.
This isn't guilt by association. He has been mentored by Thiel since Yale. He s is a carpet bagger, selling an image. Follow the money... who is behind America PAC and why? Who is behind surveillance technology and has ties to intelligence? Maybe you should know the candidate before you defend him.
And RFK doesn't want to "kiss and make-up" he is exposing their cheating and corruption. He has been fighting corruption for 40 years.
thanks for not sending a link Jessy
However your assessment in inaccurate and my characterization is
I am not defending, I am assessing / accurately Try it!
Do not even try to play the follow the money card as it is bottom barrel.
RFK choose his VP for which reason??
Oddly a few days ago the richest man on earth pledged 45 mil a month to.... DJT
He is the same guy who afforted RFK his debate platform yeah??
Time to wake up Jessy.
How did you know I go by Jessie...its kind of creepy. Lol.
I'm not asleep. Musk has hedged his bets after the VP announcement. He is for his interests...
If you actually research Shanahan you might be able to see what a great candidate she is. She isn't just payroll.
easy to counter after the fact, the story was very very different when he granted RFK his "debate" platform
Everyone is "for" their interests and grass is green, Jessy
Do not need to do "research" we are discussing potential President
not a nice mom for a school board.
Had she not been bankroll, would not have happened.
You obviously are speaking from ignorance of the subject again....
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2024/07/investigative-reports/the-man-behind-trumps-vp-pick-its-worse-than-you-think/
https://youtu.be/cMYdu-vTuPI?si=DnHdhY6tShTBqKDW
Excellent article. No question we need Bobbie not someone espousing some of his ideas without the power or experience to implement.
Nah, pathetic for the reasons mentioned. Where were you for the sentence composure part of high school English?
Both tRump and Vance have been coopting Booby's message, as they see how effective it is being in reaching voters...
Really then why is DJT ahead by a million country miles??
Lol. Only in your delusional world, TS! Almost every day you show us w/your word salad comments and cutting remarks you are clueless to what’s happening out here!! #kennedy24
thank you for the complements!
The facts are troublesome.
What is habbening out there?? Ask Cindy she knows...
Cutting remarks?? or Accurate Assessment in public forum
I am quite surprised you only got 3 likes.
I am studying you Beaconites, assessing the reasoning skills.
Preliminary results are not favorable.
(some more "word salad")
Because the Democrat support is actually not heartfelt, but motivated by fear of Trump, and going with the option they think "can win". Head to head in polling, Kennedy beats Trump.
Great leaders are not concerned with who gets the credit, even in a world that is obsessed with who does. Think of the words from Solomon in the Bible… All is vanity. It’s the core motivation for most of the actions and decisions we make. And most of us don’t have a clue as to how much it controls us. How easy it is to manipulate the swollen ego of man.
The only, and most important part of this steaming pile of Amish exhaust is that Bobbie Kennedy grew up in posh surroundings, giving lip service to flyover country while flying over it.
JD Vance LIVED IT.
https://youtu.be/5z9BOtdYpPY?si=KycitFaX02_zZV4p
Great minds think alike. I support both Kennedy and Vance - as my backgound form a poor family and I was lucky to become and engineer and then a lawyer. I agree with both RFK and Vance - all I want is their visions realized.
Pointing out the obvious to Beaconites is like speaking Greek in the ghetto.
You were not lucky, you were diligent and principled. Seems that policy is life long.
Fair enough
"I came here for an argument!" ~Monty Python
Not surprising. JD Vance is from the Vance family which has roots in West Virginia. Vances will steal to get ahead. The honor is in winning, not how it is achieved. "Devil" Anse Hatfield of the Hatfield-McCoy Feud which happened after the Civil War in WV was related to this family. His mother's maiden names was Vance. I say appointing JD Vance as his vice-president is part of Trump's behavior that he historically uses to psych out opponents. Also related to the same extended Vance family is Cyrus Vance, Jr, who is a former District Attorney for New York. His father, Cyrus Vance Sr, was born in Clarksburg, WV.
Not surprising. JD Vance is a Vance. Vances will steal and do anything to win. The honor for them is winning, no how you got there. The Vance family has roots in southern West Virginia. JD Vance is descended from the same extended family as "Devil" Anse Hatfield of the Hatfield-McCoy Feud in West Virginia. His mother's maiden name was Vance. I say appointing JD Vance is also part of Trump's "psych out" or element of surprise that he uses against opponents. Not to suggest Cyrus Vance is a thief - he left the environment. But he is also from the same extended family. Cyrus Vance relative was born in Clarksburg also worked in the Kennedy administration as Sec. of the Army and General Counsel for the Department of Defense, was born in Clarksburg and is also part of this extended family. Cyrus Vance, Jr. is a former Manhattan District Attorney in New York and in his job capacity has had 'dealings' with the Trump family, most notably when charges were brought against the Trump Organization for Tax Fraud in 2021.
If you vote democrat you’re voting for a war against Russia. If you’re voting republican you’re picking up a fight against Iran and china. I rather very much choose Kennedy’s approach: “…our country’s “destiny” is “not to dominate the world, but to inspire it.”
Wrong, I refer you to un-redacted Hemingway. Highly literary actually, you FUCKFACE !
Einstein said that if you look far enough into the distance you will see the back of your own head. Politics is the same way: those on the far right and the far left share similar views. Susan, below, is correct in that Vance did not steal stuff. He has his own views that are common to the populist Maga movement, and Kennedy has his own views that are common to old-school Democrats. Both groups have much more in common than a lot of people wish to believe.
"Kennedy’s commitment to peace ... has a uniquely visionary and even spiritual quality to it."
. . .
RFK recently posted Part II of his Palestine/Israel “Pathway to Peace” on YouTube & Rumble (since removed). That same day, Yaniv Cogan's piece on Israel's “the no day after” plan for Gaza was posted by Jeremy Schahill https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israel-is-reviewing-a-proposal-to Israel's “Pathway to Peace” reminds me of Tacitus’ quote: “They make a desert and call it peace.”
“On Thursday, the Israeli Knesset voted overwhelmingly to thwart any effort to establish an independent Palestinian state … doubled down on Israel’s longstanding project of confining Palestinians in increasingly isolated and uninhabitable ghettos.”
“… Israel appears dedicated to implementing a policy of “no day after” for the Palestinians in Gaza. … … leadership remains committed to the implementation of a genocidal policy that would render Gaza permanently uninhabitable. … undermining claims that the assault on Gaza is a targeted operation focused solely on Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad.”
“Dan Schueftan … explained, “Ground invasions should be carried out, perhaps under the banner of ‘harming enemy forces,’ but their real significance is the devastation they leave behind them. I don’t mind that as a pretext we claim that there is some military objective, because that’s required by all these International Law people, so we can bring in some lawyer to explain how to do it ...”
“Blaming Hamas for Israel’s destruction of Gaza is essential to the plan to replace it. … “Can Hamas be eliminated?” He emphasized that Israel’s destruction of Gaza was an essential component of the efforts to marginalize Hamas: “Once you make it clear that [Hamas] not only did not win, but that it has brought about a horrific catastrophe upon itself, and also upon its people ... and when this ends with Hamas’s metaphorical and non-metaphorical corpse laying on the floor, robbed and finished off, this will have a very positive echo.”
Really? “they're [people of Gaza] angry. And sometimes some people will blame Hamas, but everybody knows who's bombing them. Everybody.” https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/on-the-record-with-hamas
Gaza is more than an echo of the Nazi's destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943. When the German soldiers met stiff resistance from the Jewish freedom fighters, they burned the place down to the ground, along with most of it's civilian inhabitants. The few survivors were sent to concentration camps. I think the words "Holocaust" or "Nakba" or "Genocide" apply to the liquidation of both ghettos.
"For Kennedy ... humility manifests as an open invitation to challenge his beliefs. “You can always change my mind with facts,” Kennedy said in a May interview. “If you […] show me I'm wrong about one of my presumptions, I'm gonna change my mind.”
. . .
“The only sin is pride.” RFK Sr quoted that line from Sophocles's play in a 1968 speech against the Vietnam War. "Conflict in Vietnam and at home":“... a third great cause of discontent is the course we are following in Vietnam: in a war which has divided Americans … I am concerned … that the course we are following at the present time is deeply wrong. … that we are acting as if no other nations existed, against the judgment and desires of neutrals and our historic allies alike … that our present course will not bring victory; will not bring peace; will not stop the bloodshed; and will not advance the interests of the United States or the cause of peace in the world. I am concerned that, at the end of it all … they may say, as Tacitus said of Rome: "They made a desert, and called it peace."
“I was involved in many of the early decisions on Vietnam, decisions that helped set us on our present path. It may be that the effort was doomed from the start … But past error is no excuse for its own perpetuation. Tragedy is a tool for the living to gain wisdom, not a guide by which to live. Now as ever, we do ourselves best justice when we measure ourselves against ancient tests, as in the Antigone of Sophocles: "All men make mistakes, but a good man yields when he knows his course is wrong, and repairs the evil. The only sin is pride."
His son, RFK, Jr is also fond of that quote. He used it to preface his 2016 book and in a 12/11/23 tweet. So, it's tragic RFK hasn't followed in his father's footsteps to apply Sophocles's advice and reconsidered his support of the on-going "path to peace" today.
Unfortunately, RFK is still parroting the same propaganda (from folks like Shmuley Boteach or John Spencer) as he did 8 months ago. He hasn't learned a thing. It appears pride is his sin, his Achilles heel. RFK refuses to listen "to the other side' (e.g. Max Blumenthal, etc.) and learn the truth about Gaza, "admit his error, and to make amends.
The values that many here credit to RFK did not originate with him. Through his life experience and the grace of God he has learned them along the way. They are there for all who want to change their lives for the better. And when honest virtuous values are displayed and accepted by others as well you should be glad and hope that they will spread to all. He who is without sin cast the first stone.