This is fantastic. Robert Kennedy Jr is the only candidate who truly cares about, loves and listens to all Americans. He provides carefully researched solutions. I believe we are all tired of name-calling and finger-pointing with no solutions offered to important issues.
Great event with excellent commentary. Gives me great hope that Americans are paying attention and ready to speak up for change in our broken two party system. Heal the Divide is resonating! Thank-you!
There is a lot of good talk about the problem of the duopoly. But what is Kennedy doing to disrupt that duopoly if he gets in? I haven’t found anything about that, for example, on his website where there is a video with him standing in water talking about “spirituality”, but nothing about electoral reform. There are ways to change the system so that independent views can find their way into the system, such as ranked choice proportional voting.
Why isn’t he running hard on electoral reform? I find his completely hollow promises of lowering chronic diseases in 4 years(it would take longer than 4 years to even gather meaningful data about it), for example, but no discussion of electoral reform to be disappointing. After all, the reason he is running as independent and it’s going to be such a challenge is because of our antiquated electoral system that forces people to choose the lesser evil in every election.
I have investigated Covid vaccines for well over 3 yrs and I can without reservation say RFK Jr is one of the single most knowledgeable Attorneys in America regarding childhood vaccines.. and how they have become a plague on our youth.. (60% of a Pediatricians income is derived from Wellness visits where they push the vaccine of the day)there are 80+ jabs on the current childhood schedule now! Several have Never been tested on a human.. The FDA, the CDC, the NIH, are All compromised by Big Pharma Execs sitting on their boards.. many many times approving drugs and vaccines against their own scientists recommendations.. I highly recommend the book The Real Anthony Fauchi by Dr Mercola..
I have read well over 1000 different peer reviewed studies on just the Covid vaccines and their over 14,000 different adverse reactions in the last 3 years.. these MRNA experimental gene altering products are Not vaccines..
You really should do some independent research of your own. If you do use Non Mainstream search engines like Brave or Duck Duck Go because Google and Bing ect.. are compromised. They are controlled by Big Pharma’s Ad Budget and will not publish anything B Pharma wouldn’t approve..
RFK Jr knows first hand how defeat criminal corporations having done it his entire legal career.. how to restore the US Sick Care system to one that truly benefits it citizens.. Not the Pfizer’s..
Read that. And tell me Rfk jr isn’t a fraud when it comes to vaccine science. He manipulated transcripts. I can see it. When someone does that *I don’t trust them*.
I consider Mercola a quack. I don’t like Fauci, but I don’t need to read a quack’s book to dislike Fauci. Mercola pimps bullshit supplements that have less evidence than the stuff he criticizes.
I generally don’t trust the CDC or the FDA or the NIH either. But I don’t want to replace them with quacks. We are in a very disappointing situation. It’s unfortunate that our “scientific” institutions are politically captured and many of their most vocal opponents are not fit to replace them.
Rfk jr is a politician and a lawyer. He isn’t a doctor. He isn’t a scientist. He isn’t a philosopher. Know what you are getting.
Hey Jeff, Sorry I am slow replying because I work in an a remote area with no cell service.. Anyway I did read the article you linked and what I can say is I don't know..? Maybe RFK Jr made some mistakes. Maybe he didn't. This is only One reporters side of the story that took place years ago. We can't know the full story without RFK Jr.'s input. Now for you to make a Sweeping derogatory statement about his entire life based on a single incident is patently absurd. Especially when you stand back and look at the entire body of his work over the last several decades. His excellence as an Attorney fighting the good fight is undeniable. He has defeated major Corporate Criminals several times and forced them to clean up their act.. That's the main thrust of his life..
Your comments regarding Dr Mercola are also very telling.. I have followed his research and used his products almost 10 yrs and I can say without equivocation he sets the standard when it comes to nutritional supplements and research. I have personally experienced the benefits. along time.. I am 74 and very fit.. No health issues.. I attribute this wonderful state in no small part to Dr Mercola's guidance..
Fact, Big Pharma, Big Chemical, Big Govt.. Hate RFK Jr and Mercola, hence they post and promote via the one of the Biggest PR Agency's in the world all types of BS on Mainstream Media.. which they OWN..
I am very busy and have no more time to address this conversation. As I stated earlier In the future I suggest you do much more in depth investigative research before posting... Sweeping Unfounded Derogatory comments...
Sweeping unfounded derogatory comments? Huh? I said I don’t trust him because of that “mistake”. And it’s not simply a “reporters side”; the reporter offered evidence which you can personally investigate yourself. The transcripts he mangled are publicly viewable. You can determine it yourself. Losing trust in someone based on a single act is not absurd: if an act is egregious enough, depending on context, it is reasonable. For politicians, trust should be hard to gain and easy to lose.
As for your anecdotal love for Mercola and the claim he “sets the standard” for supplement research -- if he sets the standard, it’s extremely low. I’m really not interested in arguing about Mercola though. You are welcome to swallow whatever he offers you. Good to hear you are doing well.
But simply because organizations like Big Pharma that aren’t trustworthy don’t like some of their critics doesn’t mean those critics are any better than those organizations. Unfortunately they can be worse. An enemy of an enemy is not always a friend.
Please don’t condescending preach to me about being “the light.” And my heart is not devoid of hope. Your admonishment to “see the good in people” and then to imply I am darkness is hypocritical nonsense.
There was only two “name calling” incidents in my entire comment. I suggested Rfk jr was a fraud when it came to vaccine science, which he is, and Mercola a quack, which he is. It’s called accurately identifying people’s behaviors. I could just have said that Rfk Jr acted fraudulently with regard to vaccine science. And I could have said Mercola acts quackish with regard to supplements. Would you have preferred that? Or do just disparage all criticism of anyone you like under the lie of “looking for the good in people.” If we are going to “be the light”, we should shine it everywhere, especially where there is darkness.
You wouldn’t even be here if you didn’t see the bad in the people who are the targets of Rfk Jrs criticisms -- pharma, the fda, nih, “Fauci”. Or in his political opponents, Biden and Trump. So how about instead of simply “looking for the good” in politicians, bureaucrats, and salesmen, we see whatever is true. If there is good, it will be found. Rfk jr has some good, but it’s going to be up to everyone to debate whether or not the bad outweighs it. And it simply won’t be good strategy to tell people not to look at it. I’m leaning toward voting for him, but if he or his supporters never adequately address my concerns, I may not.
It’s sad to hear you have had 3 years of chemo therapy. I hope we can find a way to heal and prevent more things without resorting to painful modalities. People who I love have gone through chemo therapy as well. People with chronic illnesses are definitely not nameless to me.
I imagine I could even be classified as having a chronic illness, depending on what is included in the designation.
If you detected frustration / anger, then yes you would be accurate. When people try to defraud me, particularly politicians and salesman, it can anger me. However, frankly anger is not something that is characteristically intense with me. I’m talking about politics though, so anger is just going to be a component. And I’m not going to apologize about my anger. Anger ( or other emotions / attitudes like “aversion” or “dislike” or “contempt” or “hate”) in itself is not a sin; more harm is often done to people in the denigration of anger, and the shame and guilt around anger than anger itself. Without anger, justice can never be found.
Albeit what “justice” is is debatable. And anger and those other emotions can sometimes distort peoples’ rational faculties or lead them to take detestable actions. But so can love or “peace”. Just observe the consequences that come from the love of Trump and Biden. Love is blind, as they say.
And when it comes to Rfk jr, I’m skeptical of him, deeply so, because he has attempted an elaborate deception about quite important medical topics. I simply view him as a politician who could potentially have a better effect on the country, than Biden and Trump, and that is all.
I’d have no aversion to developing a friendship with you. Although I cannot promise it. I don’t know you significantly. I don’t just become friends with people arbitrarily. I *discriminate*. There are vampires out there who I have no interest letting into my life or my soul. It’s dangerous to behave otherwise, both to ourselves and others.
Hi Jeffrey, the data on chronic diseases already exists and Blue Zone projects around the country have demonstrated significant improvement in health among those participating. It's my understanding from a speech he gave somewhere that he intends to institute a program of more "Blue Zones" as one of many prongs in his approach. The other important prong that will have a huge impact on chronic disease is undoing the Big Pharma capture of the federal agencies responsible for their regulation.
Hi Jennifer, Perhaps you're not familiar with the designation of Blue Zones throughout the planet as areas with more centenarians than anywhere else in the world? There is a book about it as well as a Netflix series describing the lifestyle habits that the people in these regions share that are likely reasons for their tendency to live longer healthier lives than people elsewhere. Check it out! It's really inspiring. And this is how Kennedy can actually have an impact on the health of communities in a relatively short amount of time provided people are willing to do what's necessary to get better and feel better. Several regions throughout America volunteered to try it and it worked. It's all in the short Netflix series.
He said if he doesn’t drop the level of chronic disease level in America significantly in 4 years he doesn’t want to be re elected. The chances of him being able to implement the sort of environmental and cultural reconstruction necessary to see any “significant” change is 4 years is quite low in my estimation, and I’d like to have him give details about how he expects to do it. Because if it includes any whacky pseudoscience, it a) won’t work and b) wont be supported. Unfortunately for him, there is substantial evidence out there of him being a deceptive quack when it comes to vaccines and autism stuff. He mangled transcripts of a scientific meeting in one of his books.
Sorry, but I don’t care if I detest Biden and Trump, I do have concerns about RFk jr bringing his bullshit to the presidency. I’m split about him. Still could vote for him, but he doesn’t seem to be emphasizing the stuff that I’m attracted to voting for him about. And he still seems to enwebbed in Democratic Party economic theory — which includes disregard for the reality of the 33 trillion dollar debt and having a budget. And as others have mentioned his indiscriminate support for Israel is totally in alignment with the duopoly. Did I mention the debt? We are paying Israel 3 billion a year. Israel isn’t poor. And it’s using that money so it can offset the cost of its apartheid prison state. And he has a video talking about “Peace”. Oh stfu. Can we have a politician that isn’t a fraud?
Hi Jeffrey, the article you posted the link to is from 2017 and is factually inaccurate on several counts including the omission that the measles outbreak referenced was in children who were vaccinated and that an error in the Rolling Stone article by Kennedy contained a error about thimerosol that was the result of editing by the publisher, and was not made by Kennedy. Kennedy is not anti-vax, he is however FOR vaccine SAFETY. To date, not a single double blind study has been carried out on any of the 72 vaccines essentially mandated in the US. Please review Kennedy's very detailed examination of vaccine safety and the history of NIH and FDA vaccine mandates in his many recent articles and books, but particularly well referenced in his book "The Real Anthony Fauci." (NOTE that i don't want to get into a debate about vaccine efficacy here, BUT independent epidemiological cohort studies of vaccinated children versus unvaccinated children have demonstrated that unvaccinated children have more robust immune systems and lower chronic illnesses, which means fewer trips to the doctor, few prescriptions and therefore a lower economic impact on their families.)
Your note about his budget is a good one. He has discussed pulling troops out of many countries, which will save billions of dollars. What are the other items that you feel he has not addressed that would impact your choice to vote for or against him? Just curious. Thanks!
My point in following up is that there is a lot of misrepresentation of where Kennedy stands when it comes to science-based policies. It's important that people listen to what he says in the many interviews available online. His answers are clear and well-considered. He can back up everything with references and knows the science much better than any other politician. His message is consistent and he never resorts to discussing his opponents in a negative way, which to me speaks highly of his character. I'll leave it at that for now, but I'm very open to continuing the conversation.
When it comes to the factual inaccuracies of that article -- is it factually inaccurate that he mangled the transcript of the Simpsonwood meeting? Because that is the only thing I mentioned. I can see the transcripts. And I can see what he wrote. Are you going to tell me he didn’t mangle them?
-Budget reform. (Ie no deficits, pay off the debt, allow voting on individual items rather than a multi thousand page bill that no one in congress reads).
-Foreign Aid(we are in debt), including that to Israel Egypt, and Ukraine
-School choice. He talks almost entirely positive about unions as if they can never possibly cause harm to the public, which is foolish. The American teachers Union has been a curse on this nation, and that includes its influence with covid stuff, which he should be very very aware of. Public unions function as monopolies that are concerned about maintaining privileges of members and not the quality of whatever they are supposed to produce. In the case of education, it is educated students in safe environments. And our public education system is not succeeding. It’s a disgrace. It’s a bloated waste of resources that forces citizens to pay for substandard schools. He talks a lot of shit about various government institutions but has little to say about the department of education that I can find.
-Crime: and particularly criminal gangs and crime related to drug addiction and vagrancy. It’s all a blight on our society. And the social justice fundamentalism that has captured the Democratic Party is making it worse.
-homelessness, Los Angeles should have lower rates of homelessness than Tokyo, but with basic shelters and not Internet cafes.
Thanks for the clarification and additional information on what you think Kennedy needs to address to give voters a clear idea of his platform.
Regarding the article you cited and his "mangling of the Simpsonwood meeting", I've read both the full version of the transcripts and those included in Kennedy's article and I disagree that this was disingenuous and fraudulent. I don't see where his truncated versions of what was said differs in meaning from the original unedited versions. I read them all several times and believe that his versions convey the same meaning and intent. As I read Mnookin's artricle, I got the distinct impression that he has an axe to grind with Kennedy and that it's colored his analysis. I'll reiterate as well that many, if not most, of the corrections that were made by the Rolling Stone editors were in fact the result of their editing process where meaning and numbers were changed or converted during that process (it was a much longer piece that he submitted and it had to be cut down). That is the explanation I have read elsewhere. I'll see if i can find it and share it here. I recommend you read the very well researched and cited "The Real Anthony Fauci", which was authored by RFK Jr. not, as one commenter here indicated, Mercola. There are also plenty of interviews with him where he explains his position on vaccines and industry capture of the FDA, CDC, NIH etc. I hope this is helpful.
I don’t like Fauci. No need to read a book about him to convince me of that. Maybe some day, but I have a long book list.
I think the worse example the author gives about Kennnedy in the article is this quote from Kennedy’s book:
“We are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits,” said Dr. Robert Brent, a pediatrician at the Alfred I. DuPont Hospital for Children in Delaware. “This will be a resource to our very busy plaintiff attorneys in this country.”
Which is derived from
“Finally, the thing that concerns me the most, those who know me, I have been a pin stick in the litigation community because of the nonsense of our litigious society. This will be a resource to our very busy plaintiff attorneys in this country when this information becomes available. They don’t want valid data. At least that is my biased opinion. They want business and this could potentially be a lot of business.”
And 38 pages later in the transcript:
“If an allegation was made that a child’s neurobehavioral findings were caused by thimerosal containing vaccines, you could readily find a junk scientist who would support the claim with ‘a reasonable degree of certainty.’ … So we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits if they were initiated and I am concerned.”
How you could possibly think that there was no difference in meaning in what Kennedy said and the transcript befuddles me deeply. The original transcript the physician is expressing his concerns about frivolous lawsuits, while Kennedy’s statement comes across as if the physician is just acknowledging the study is so bad that there will be lawsuits. And it is ironic , and sickly so, because Kennedy ultimately *is one of the lawyers* the biologist is talking about. Kennedy does exactly what the biologist is afraid of, distorting stuff for the sake of litigation. He took the data of the meeting, the transcript, and butchered it for the sake of presenting a particular narrative.
That is *fraud*. It doesn’t matter if you are ultimately sympathetic with what Kennedy’s goals are; he is using deception and manipulating data for that goal. He presents himself as honest when it comes to his presentation of vaccine science and politics but he is absolutely and clearly not. It doesn’t matter if other actors are not honest either. We will be getting another dishonest actor. And what is motivating the physician vs Kennedy, the plaintiff attorney? The physician is trying to save himself from what he thinks are frivolous lawsuits. Kennedy? Sport and money, is my hypothesis.
Will Kennedy ever own up to any of his deception? We will see. Politicians rarely do.
Could I still vote for him? Sure. The only options we have are fraudulent politicians, but one still could be better than the other. And until we get electoral reform, that is what we will be coerced to choose among.
Hi Jeffrey, Thank you for continuing this conversation. We fundamentally disagree on this point. The physician labels the lawsuits as falling into the category of "nonsense of our litigious society" and you are willing to accept that. I'm not. The people initiating lawsuits against Big Pharma have known for a long time that they are waging an uphill battle. I also know with certainty that Kennedy's motivation is not money or sport. First he doesn't need the money and second, there are plenty of plaintiffs in the US whom he can defend, so why would he choose to defend a frivolous lawsuit? He wouldn't. He chooses cases that he feels deserve his time and energy that are concerned with topics he is passionate about, that he feels called to work on. He has, in numerous interviews, talked about the fact that he came to the vaccine safety advocacy world with great reluctance. It pulled him away from the cause he was most passionate about at the time - defending the environment from Big Polluters like General Electric and Monsanto. He is at his core a deeply spiritual man with a very rigorous set of personal and professional ethics that are based in his religious faith that it matters if you tell the truth or not. If you have time, check out this interview Lex Fridman did that's been viewed 2.9M times - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPtBkw5uD-0 and if you're short on time, start at 1:45:00 time stamp where he speaks to Big Pharma capture of federal regulatory bodies and finishes with a discussion of where his spirituality comes from, how it has helped him stay sober for 42 years, and informs his life in general.
Finally, remember that the Biden administration, DNC and Mainstream media have targeted Kennedy for censorship not because he lies, but because the truth he speaks undermines what they are trying to accomplish, which is a whitewashing of the truth about vaccine safety and efficacy as well as many other issues important to Americans in order to continuing receiving financial support from the Military-Industrial Complex (that is, to make themselves more money).
This is fantastic. Robert Kennedy Jr is the only candidate who truly cares about, loves and listens to all Americans. He provides carefully researched solutions. I believe we are all tired of name-calling and finger-pointing with no solutions offered to important issues.
Excellent article! Thank you!
Great event with excellent commentary. Gives me great hope that Americans are paying attention and ready to speak up for change in our broken two party system. Heal the Divide is resonating! Thank-you!
There is a lot of good talk about the problem of the duopoly. But what is Kennedy doing to disrupt that duopoly if he gets in? I haven’t found anything about that, for example, on his website where there is a video with him standing in water talking about “spirituality”, but nothing about electoral reform. There are ways to change the system so that independent views can find their way into the system, such as ranked choice proportional voting.
Why isn’t he running hard on electoral reform? I find his completely hollow promises of lowering chronic diseases in 4 years(it would take longer than 4 years to even gather meaningful data about it), for example, but no discussion of electoral reform to be disappointing. After all, the reason he is running as independent and it’s going to be such a challenge is because of our antiquated electoral system that forces people to choose the lesser evil in every election.
Hey Jeffery,
I have investigated Covid vaccines for well over 3 yrs and I can without reservation say RFK Jr is one of the single most knowledgeable Attorneys in America regarding childhood vaccines.. and how they have become a plague on our youth.. (60% of a Pediatricians income is derived from Wellness visits where they push the vaccine of the day)there are 80+ jabs on the current childhood schedule now! Several have Never been tested on a human.. The FDA, the CDC, the NIH, are All compromised by Big Pharma Execs sitting on their boards.. many many times approving drugs and vaccines against their own scientists recommendations.. I highly recommend the book The Real Anthony Fauchi by Dr Mercola..
I have read well over 1000 different peer reviewed studies on just the Covid vaccines and their over 14,000 different adverse reactions in the last 3 years.. these MRNA experimental gene altering products are Not vaccines..
You really should do some independent research of your own. If you do use Non Mainstream search engines like Brave or Duck Duck Go because Google and Bing ect.. are compromised. They are controlled by Big Pharma’s Ad Budget and will not publish anything B Pharma wouldn’t approve..
RFK Jr knows first hand how defeat criminal corporations having done it his entire legal career.. how to restore the US Sick Care system to one that truly benefits it citizens.. Not the Pfizer’s..
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-robert-f-kennedy-jr-distorted-vaccine-science1/#
Read that. And tell me Rfk jr isn’t a fraud when it comes to vaccine science. He manipulated transcripts. I can see it. When someone does that *I don’t trust them*.
I consider Mercola a quack. I don’t like Fauci, but I don’t need to read a quack’s book to dislike Fauci. Mercola pimps bullshit supplements that have less evidence than the stuff he criticizes.
I generally don’t trust the CDC or the FDA or the NIH either. But I don’t want to replace them with quacks. We are in a very disappointing situation. It’s unfortunate that our “scientific” institutions are politically captured and many of their most vocal opponents are not fit to replace them.
Rfk jr is a politician and a lawyer. He isn’t a doctor. He isn’t a scientist. He isn’t a philosopher. Know what you are getting.
Hey Jeff, Sorry I am slow replying because I work in an a remote area with no cell service.. Anyway I did read the article you linked and what I can say is I don't know..? Maybe RFK Jr made some mistakes. Maybe he didn't. This is only One reporters side of the story that took place years ago. We can't know the full story without RFK Jr.'s input. Now for you to make a Sweeping derogatory statement about his entire life based on a single incident is patently absurd. Especially when you stand back and look at the entire body of his work over the last several decades. His excellence as an Attorney fighting the good fight is undeniable. He has defeated major Corporate Criminals several times and forced them to clean up their act.. That's the main thrust of his life..
Your comments regarding Dr Mercola are also very telling.. I have followed his research and used his products almost 10 yrs and I can say without equivocation he sets the standard when it comes to nutritional supplements and research. I have personally experienced the benefits. along time.. I am 74 and very fit.. No health issues.. I attribute this wonderful state in no small part to Dr Mercola's guidance..
Fact, Big Pharma, Big Chemical, Big Govt.. Hate RFK Jr and Mercola, hence they post and promote via the one of the Biggest PR Agency's in the world all types of BS on Mainstream Media.. which they OWN..
I am very busy and have no more time to address this conversation. As I stated earlier In the future I suggest you do much more in depth investigative research before posting... Sweeping Unfounded Derogatory comments...
Sweeping unfounded derogatory comments? Huh? I said I don’t trust him because of that “mistake”. And it’s not simply a “reporters side”; the reporter offered evidence which you can personally investigate yourself. The transcripts he mangled are publicly viewable. You can determine it yourself. Losing trust in someone based on a single act is not absurd: if an act is egregious enough, depending on context, it is reasonable. For politicians, trust should be hard to gain and easy to lose.
As for your anecdotal love for Mercola and the claim he “sets the standard” for supplement research -- if he sets the standard, it’s extremely low. I’m really not interested in arguing about Mercola though. You are welcome to swallow whatever he offers you. Good to hear you are doing well.
But simply because organizations like Big Pharma that aren’t trustworthy don’t like some of their critics doesn’t mean those critics are any better than those organizations. Unfortunately they can be worse. An enemy of an enemy is not always a friend.
Please don’t condescending preach to me about being “the light.” And my heart is not devoid of hope. Your admonishment to “see the good in people” and then to imply I am darkness is hypocritical nonsense.
There was only two “name calling” incidents in my entire comment. I suggested Rfk jr was a fraud when it came to vaccine science, which he is, and Mercola a quack, which he is. It’s called accurately identifying people’s behaviors. I could just have said that Rfk Jr acted fraudulently with regard to vaccine science. And I could have said Mercola acts quackish with regard to supplements. Would you have preferred that? Or do just disparage all criticism of anyone you like under the lie of “looking for the good in people.” If we are going to “be the light”, we should shine it everywhere, especially where there is darkness.
You wouldn’t even be here if you didn’t see the bad in the people who are the targets of Rfk Jrs criticisms -- pharma, the fda, nih, “Fauci”. Or in his political opponents, Biden and Trump. So how about instead of simply “looking for the good” in politicians, bureaucrats, and salesmen, we see whatever is true. If there is good, it will be found. Rfk jr has some good, but it’s going to be up to everyone to debate whether or not the bad outweighs it. And it simply won’t be good strategy to tell people not to look at it. I’m leaning toward voting for him, but if he or his supporters never adequately address my concerns, I may not.
It’s sad to hear you have had 3 years of chemo therapy. I hope we can find a way to heal and prevent more things without resorting to painful modalities. People who I love have gone through chemo therapy as well. People with chronic illnesses are definitely not nameless to me.
I imagine I could even be classified as having a chronic illness, depending on what is included in the designation.
If you detected frustration / anger, then yes you would be accurate. When people try to defraud me, particularly politicians and salesman, it can anger me. However, frankly anger is not something that is characteristically intense with me. I’m talking about politics though, so anger is just going to be a component. And I’m not going to apologize about my anger. Anger ( or other emotions / attitudes like “aversion” or “dislike” or “contempt” or “hate”) in itself is not a sin; more harm is often done to people in the denigration of anger, and the shame and guilt around anger than anger itself. Without anger, justice can never be found.
Albeit what “justice” is is debatable. And anger and those other emotions can sometimes distort peoples’ rational faculties or lead them to take detestable actions. But so can love or “peace”. Just observe the consequences that come from the love of Trump and Biden. Love is blind, as they say.
And when it comes to Rfk jr, I’m skeptical of him, deeply so, because he has attempted an elaborate deception about quite important medical topics. I simply view him as a politician who could potentially have a better effect on the country, than Biden and Trump, and that is all.
I’d have no aversion to developing a friendship with you. Although I cannot promise it. I don’t know you significantly. I don’t just become friends with people arbitrarily. I *discriminate*. There are vampires out there who I have no interest letting into my life or my soul. It’s dangerous to behave otherwise, both to ourselves and others.
Hi Jeffrey, the data on chronic diseases already exists and Blue Zone projects around the country have demonstrated significant improvement in health among those participating. It's my understanding from a speech he gave somewhere that he intends to institute a program of more "Blue Zones" as one of many prongs in his approach. The other important prong that will have a huge impact on chronic disease is undoing the Big Pharma capture of the federal agencies responsible for their regulation.
Oh, boy. That's all we need are more zones of anything Blue.
Hi Jennifer, Perhaps you're not familiar with the designation of Blue Zones throughout the planet as areas with more centenarians than anywhere else in the world? There is a book about it as well as a Netflix series describing the lifestyle habits that the people in these regions share that are likely reasons for their tendency to live longer healthier lives than people elsewhere. Check it out! It's really inspiring. And this is how Kennedy can actually have an impact on the health of communities in a relatively short amount of time provided people are willing to do what's necessary to get better and feel better. Several regions throughout America volunteered to try it and it worked. It's all in the short Netflix series.
He said if he doesn’t drop the level of chronic disease level in America significantly in 4 years he doesn’t want to be re elected. The chances of him being able to implement the sort of environmental and cultural reconstruction necessary to see any “significant” change is 4 years is quite low in my estimation, and I’d like to have him give details about how he expects to do it. Because if it includes any whacky pseudoscience, it a) won’t work and b) wont be supported. Unfortunately for him, there is substantial evidence out there of him being a deceptive quack when it comes to vaccines and autism stuff. He mangled transcripts of a scientific meeting in one of his books.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-robert-f-kennedy-jr-distorted-vaccine-science1/#
Sorry, but I don’t care if I detest Biden and Trump, I do have concerns about RFk jr bringing his bullshit to the presidency. I’m split about him. Still could vote for him, but he doesn’t seem to be emphasizing the stuff that I’m attracted to voting for him about. And he still seems to enwebbed in Democratic Party economic theory — which includes disregard for the reality of the 33 trillion dollar debt and having a budget. And as others have mentioned his indiscriminate support for Israel is totally in alignment with the duopoly. Did I mention the debt? We are paying Israel 3 billion a year. Israel isn’t poor. And it’s using that money so it can offset the cost of its apartheid prison state. And he has a video talking about “Peace”. Oh stfu. Can we have a politician that isn’t a fraud?
Sigh.
Hi Jeffrey, the article you posted the link to is from 2017 and is factually inaccurate on several counts including the omission that the measles outbreak referenced was in children who were vaccinated and that an error in the Rolling Stone article by Kennedy contained a error about thimerosol that was the result of editing by the publisher, and was not made by Kennedy. Kennedy is not anti-vax, he is however FOR vaccine SAFETY. To date, not a single double blind study has been carried out on any of the 72 vaccines essentially mandated in the US. Please review Kennedy's very detailed examination of vaccine safety and the history of NIH and FDA vaccine mandates in his many recent articles and books, but particularly well referenced in his book "The Real Anthony Fauci." (NOTE that i don't want to get into a debate about vaccine efficacy here, BUT independent epidemiological cohort studies of vaccinated children versus unvaccinated children have demonstrated that unvaccinated children have more robust immune systems and lower chronic illnesses, which means fewer trips to the doctor, few prescriptions and therefore a lower economic impact on their families.)
Your note about his budget is a good one. He has discussed pulling troops out of many countries, which will save billions of dollars. What are the other items that you feel he has not addressed that would impact your choice to vote for or against him? Just curious. Thanks!
My point in following up is that there is a lot of misrepresentation of where Kennedy stands when it comes to science-based policies. It's important that people listen to what he says in the many interviews available online. His answers are clear and well-considered. He can back up everything with references and knows the science much better than any other politician. His message is consistent and he never resorts to discussing his opponents in a negative way, which to me speaks highly of his character. I'll leave it at that for now, but I'm very open to continuing the conversation.
I appreciate the reply.
When it comes to the factual inaccuracies of that article -- is it factually inaccurate that he mangled the transcript of the Simpsonwood meeting? Because that is the only thing I mentioned. I can see the transcripts. And I can see what he wrote. Are you going to tell me he didn’t mangle them?
As for what I feel he has not addressed:
-Electoral reform (e.g ranked choice proportional voting).
-Budget reform. (Ie no deficits, pay off the debt, allow voting on individual items rather than a multi thousand page bill that no one in congress reads).
-Foreign Aid(we are in debt), including that to Israel Egypt, and Ukraine
-School choice. He talks almost entirely positive about unions as if they can never possibly cause harm to the public, which is foolish. The American teachers Union has been a curse on this nation, and that includes its influence with covid stuff, which he should be very very aware of. Public unions function as monopolies that are concerned about maintaining privileges of members and not the quality of whatever they are supposed to produce. In the case of education, it is educated students in safe environments. And our public education system is not succeeding. It’s a disgrace. It’s a bloated waste of resources that forces citizens to pay for substandard schools. He talks a lot of shit about various government institutions but has little to say about the department of education that I can find.
-Crime: and particularly criminal gangs and crime related to drug addiction and vagrancy. It’s all a blight on our society. And the social justice fundamentalism that has captured the Democratic Party is making it worse.
-homelessness, Los Angeles should have lower rates of homelessness than Tokyo, but with basic shelters and not Internet cafes.
Thanks for the clarification and additional information on what you think Kennedy needs to address to give voters a clear idea of his platform.
Regarding the article you cited and his "mangling of the Simpsonwood meeting", I've read both the full version of the transcripts and those included in Kennedy's article and I disagree that this was disingenuous and fraudulent. I don't see where his truncated versions of what was said differs in meaning from the original unedited versions. I read them all several times and believe that his versions convey the same meaning and intent. As I read Mnookin's artricle, I got the distinct impression that he has an axe to grind with Kennedy and that it's colored his analysis. I'll reiterate as well that many, if not most, of the corrections that were made by the Rolling Stone editors were in fact the result of their editing process where meaning and numbers were changed or converted during that process (it was a much longer piece that he submitted and it had to be cut down). That is the explanation I have read elsewhere. I'll see if i can find it and share it here. I recommend you read the very well researched and cited "The Real Anthony Fauci", which was authored by RFK Jr. not, as one commenter here indicated, Mercola. There are also plenty of interviews with him where he explains his position on vaccines and industry capture of the FDA, CDC, NIH etc. I hope this is helpful.
I don’t like Fauci. No need to read a book about him to convince me of that. Maybe some day, but I have a long book list.
I think the worse example the author gives about Kennnedy in the article is this quote from Kennedy’s book:
“We are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits,” said Dr. Robert Brent, a pediatrician at the Alfred I. DuPont Hospital for Children in Delaware. “This will be a resource to our very busy plaintiff attorneys in this country.”
Which is derived from
“Finally, the thing that concerns me the most, those who know me, I have been a pin stick in the litigation community because of the nonsense of our litigious society. This will be a resource to our very busy plaintiff attorneys in this country when this information becomes available. They don’t want valid data. At least that is my biased opinion. They want business and this could potentially be a lot of business.”
And 38 pages later in the transcript:
“If an allegation was made that a child’s neurobehavioral findings were caused by thimerosal containing vaccines, you could readily find a junk scientist who would support the claim with ‘a reasonable degree of certainty.’ … So we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits if they were initiated and I am concerned.”
How you could possibly think that there was no difference in meaning in what Kennedy said and the transcript befuddles me deeply. The original transcript the physician is expressing his concerns about frivolous lawsuits, while Kennedy’s statement comes across as if the physician is just acknowledging the study is so bad that there will be lawsuits. And it is ironic , and sickly so, because Kennedy ultimately *is one of the lawyers* the biologist is talking about. Kennedy does exactly what the biologist is afraid of, distorting stuff for the sake of litigation. He took the data of the meeting, the transcript, and butchered it for the sake of presenting a particular narrative.
That is *fraud*. It doesn’t matter if you are ultimately sympathetic with what Kennedy’s goals are; he is using deception and manipulating data for that goal. He presents himself as honest when it comes to his presentation of vaccine science and politics but he is absolutely and clearly not. It doesn’t matter if other actors are not honest either. We will be getting another dishonest actor. And what is motivating the physician vs Kennedy, the plaintiff attorney? The physician is trying to save himself from what he thinks are frivolous lawsuits. Kennedy? Sport and money, is my hypothesis.
Will Kennedy ever own up to any of his deception? We will see. Politicians rarely do.
Could I still vote for him? Sure. The only options we have are fraudulent politicians, but one still could be better than the other. And until we get electoral reform, that is what we will be coerced to choose among.
Hi Jeffrey, Thank you for continuing this conversation. We fundamentally disagree on this point. The physician labels the lawsuits as falling into the category of "nonsense of our litigious society" and you are willing to accept that. I'm not. The people initiating lawsuits against Big Pharma have known for a long time that they are waging an uphill battle. I also know with certainty that Kennedy's motivation is not money or sport. First he doesn't need the money and second, there are plenty of plaintiffs in the US whom he can defend, so why would he choose to defend a frivolous lawsuit? He wouldn't. He chooses cases that he feels deserve his time and energy that are concerned with topics he is passionate about, that he feels called to work on. He has, in numerous interviews, talked about the fact that he came to the vaccine safety advocacy world with great reluctance. It pulled him away from the cause he was most passionate about at the time - defending the environment from Big Polluters like General Electric and Monsanto. He is at his core a deeply spiritual man with a very rigorous set of personal and professional ethics that are based in his religious faith that it matters if you tell the truth or not. If you have time, check out this interview Lex Fridman did that's been viewed 2.9M times - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPtBkw5uD-0 and if you're short on time, start at 1:45:00 time stamp where he speaks to Big Pharma capture of federal regulatory bodies and finishes with a discussion of where his spirituality comes from, how it has helped him stay sober for 42 years, and informs his life in general.
Finally, remember that the Biden administration, DNC and Mainstream media have targeted Kennedy for censorship not because he lies, but because the truth he speaks undermines what they are trying to accomplish, which is a whitewashing of the truth about vaccine safety and efficacy as well as many other issues important to Americans in order to continuing receiving financial support from the Military-Industrial Complex (that is, to make themselves more money).